WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??

[Turd]

We should just get a couple of nerds together and rewrite it ourselves.

[thalivest]

We should just get a couple of nerds together and rewrite it ourselves.

I'd do the Atari/Arcade version. I just need 16 teams for the original leagues....
-AL (Orioles, Red Sox, Yankees, Indians, Athletics, White Sox, Tigers, Twins)
-NL (Cubs, Cards, Pirates, Phillies, Pirates, Braves, Reds, Dodgers, Giants)

Cause the didn't get the rosters right the 1st time, plus Houston had no business being in it. And maybe a couple more for All-Star, Negro Leagues etc., like RBI versions had with division winners. Anyway....

http://www.2ksports.com/advocate/

You can send questions and inquires here. The regular "contact us" at 2ksports.com may give an automated response, but like Beef said, the more emails they receive, they'll know there's a demand for it and people are serious. Maybe it's possible.

[Turd]

WHat do you mean you'd do the atari/arcade version? I'm saying we should rewrite the whole game in a modern programming language and have all 30 teams (or the ability to add teams/players/etc). 

[Attezz]

I think he means he'd recreate the game as an arcade or atari version.

[thalivest]

WHat do you mean you'd do the atari/arcade version? I'm saying we should rewrite the whole game in a modern programming language and have all 30 teams (or the ability to add teams/players/etc).

There's another version to RBI which had legendary players, Ruth, Gehrig, Mantle (Yankees), Mays, McCovey, Hubbell (Giants), Koufax, Campanella, Snider (Dodgers) etc. It's basically the same game, but with legends. I always liked that. So you could have legendary matchups like Pujols vs Mathewson  or Musial vs Halladay for eg. I just mean the legendary/all time teams. I'd do the rosters for those.

Really, I'm just lazy. With a 30 team league you have to keep updating year to year and when players get traded or sign elswhere. The only thing I'd have to do now is add Pujols to the Cards and they're set. I mean Rickey Henderson (Athletics) or Hank Aaaron (Braves) will never have to be changed. I'd like a 30 teams, but I'm too lazy to look up 24 man rosters for each.  And teams like Colorado, Seattle, Florida, Tampa even Toronto and Texas haven't been around long enough to create all time teams. They could have teams but they wouldn't match up with Yankees, A's, Giants etc., they'd get destroyed.

[Turd]

Heh, yes, I know about that version. I was just more wondering why 16 teams. I like redoing the rosters each year. Either way, a complete rewrite would be awesome. Too bad I have a full-time job. Plus kids, no way I'd have time to pull it off.

[thalivest]

Heh, yes, I know about that version. I was just more wondering why 16 teams. I like redoing the rosters each year. Either way, a complete rewrite would be awesome. Too bad I have a full-time job. Plus kids, no way I'd have time to pull it off.

16 teams... just when MLB formed in the early 1900's those were the teams that made up the league....
-AL (Orioles, Red Sox, Yankees, Indians, Athletics, White Sox, Tigers, Twins)
-NL (Cubs, Cards, Pirates, Phillies, Pirates, Braves, Reds, Dodgers, Giants)

For no other purpose than that. You said you like REDOING the rosters each year, I'm different, I like HAVING THEM DONE. I just don't wanna have to do it all. I'd eventually get it done but I'd procrastinate. If you did, I'd help with a few teams, and maybe others would as well, to save you the time of looking up all the current rosters. Also in Madden they have historic teams, but I always found it laughable when I'd take ALL 49ers with Montana, Young, Rice etc. and go up against the ALL Bucs, Jaguars etc. That's just a blowout waiting to happen. I mean the ALL Yankess vs the ALL D'Backs, really? It's not about who wins, it's how much do the Yanks beat them by. The 16 teams is more for me personally. I'd still play a modern RBI with 30 teams as well.

I'm not the most savvy when it comes developing video games, but I was under the impression that a remake wouldn't be too hard, as the original blueprint is there. Just adding a little here and there, tweaking a little here and there. I mean adding replay for instance with different camera angles shouldn't be hard, as most games (Madden, FIFA etc.) have them. So why not incorporate it into RBI, if it's a staple (not an exceotion) in most modern games for the last 8-10 yrs or so. As far as gameplay, the simplicity is what made it great. A couple of minor adjustments. Keep the essence of the original game.

[ultimate7]

I did Arcade Rosters for 10 teams on an Arcade II ROM (Twins, Whitesox, Orioles, Indians, Pirates, Phillies, Tigers), they are all pre 88 rosters like the original Arcade teams

[thalivest]

All I could find from 2K Sports is this forum at 2K, where it was rumored to be for XBox Live and PlayStation Network as a download, which 2K/Take 2 have neither conformed or denied.

http://2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269895

For what it's worth this is what the modern Famista (only in Japan) looks like...
-For 3DS

And without 3D....
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A possibility of what it may look like if modernized.

[Turd]

Iveseen those before. I think these games look awesome. They havealot of the RBI flavor with updated graphics. Not too updated, but more modern nonetheless. The guys still cry and run away if they get thrown out. Too bad I can't read an of that Chinese.

[thalivest]

Cinese?!? It's Japanese, are you any better with that? Actually there's somewhat of a translation at gamefaqs.com. Anyway this is an email I got from 2K Soprts....
"At present we have no information regarding any future titles."

Whatever that means. No information regarding RBI specifically, or any future games from 2K. Or are they just not divulging any information. I'm not completely sure but this is what their response was.

[thalivest]

Well here's a translation guide from Famista 2009....
http://www.gamefaqs.com/ds/955682-pro-yakyuu-famista-ds-2009/faqs/56603

Now if you can figure out how to change the players/teams to MLB ones and put MLB stadiums instead of Japanese ones, we'll have something. One thing I know is the Pacific League is like the AL (with DH) and the Central League is like the NL (no DH).

[Turd]

What system  is that for?

[thalivest]

What I could find out was that Famista 2011 was released for the Nintendo 3DS in Japan. As for 2009 (and 2010 for that matter) it was released on the DS in Japan, not sure if there was a North Amrican or Europe release. But I found some roms just by googleing it...

2009
http://www.romsite.net/3607-Pro-Yakyuu-Famista-DS-2009-(JP)-nds.html
http://ndsdl.com/3607-pro-yakyuu-famista-ds-2009/
http://www.nasrom.com/2009/04/3607-pro-yakyuu-famista-ds-2009-japan.html

[thalivest]

As much as I disagree with you (the first one for me is almost the holy grail, save for a few shortcomings), especially with the 30 team ROM...I'm intrigued by RBI3.  It seems pretty fun, and if we had the right information, I'd be willing to write an editor for it.  I found some data in a few old threads, but not enough for me to want to get started just yet.  If we can get the locations for the pitcher/batter data, as well as team name icons and uniform colors, writing an editor is a snap.

Well I came across this....

http://www.mobygames.com/game/genesis/rbi-baseball-93/screenshots/gameShotId,453029/ -don't know waht "D" or "S" denotes
http://www.mobygames.com/game/genesis/rbi-baseball-94/screenshots/gameShotId,405645/ -RBI 94 player cards (also in Famista 2009), don't know what "S" means

http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/genesis/images/759screenshot1.png -RBI 94
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/genesis/images/759screenshot2.png -RBI 94

It should be similar to RBI 3 as the speed rating is all the same (from 0-20). And in RBI 2 Rickey Henderson's spd was 20 and was 18 in RBI 3. You can see what you can do with that, but personally I would like it if you (or anyone) could hack Famista 2009. What I can tell you from that is their ratings look like....

HITTERS
Contact (0-100)
Power (0-100)
Bunt (0-100)
Speed (0-100)

DEFENSE
Arm Strength
Fielding Range
Feilding Range & 2nd Position

PITCHERS
Velocity (km/h)
Curve L
Curve R
Drop
Stamina
*and I think there's another category*

Although their speed is in km/h that's simple math converting to mph. Also their field dimensions are meters not feet, but again that;s just math. I think ther are 12 teams/stadiums (from Japanese leagues). So if you could get 30 teams in RBI, I assume it's possible here. And if MLB stadiums could be put in place of Japanese ones, that would make me happy. I don't know if this is possible, but only if we could speak Japanese.

[thalivest]

What do you mean they lack stamina?  In a normal game of 1 SP style play, the SP should make it to 6 innings of pitching on average, maybe less or more depending on your usage of fastballs and sinkers, and amount of hits you're giving up.  So, for that style of play, which is how most of us play on rbibaseball.us, losing a SP in the second game doesn't even matter because you can only use one per game anyways.

Nah it's not me. I've been running tests the last couple of days. In RBI 3 I put up these #'s.....

Bob Welch OAK (W 5-1) vs '83 BAL - 8.1 IP, 8 H, 1 ER, 2 K's
(Pitched 8 shutout innings before giving up a run in the 9th, then Eckersley finished up getting last 2 outs)

Dave Stewart OAK (W 3-1 [10]) vs CIN - 10 IP, 7 H, 1 ER, 4 K's
(Yes a Jack Morris-esque effort. Pitched 7 shutout innings before surrendering only run in the 8th. R. Henderson tied it in the top of the 9th with RBI triple, and Steinbach hit a 2 run HR, after a Harold Baines single to give A's lead in the 10th. Stewart was only throwing in the mid 50's in the 9th and 10th, but was still effective, only gave up 1 hit. Retired the side in order in the 10th, while last 2 innings he faced, Morris, Larkin, Sabo, Davis & O'Neill)

Dave Stewart OAK (W 10-2) vs NL - 9 IP, 3 H, 2 ER
(Gave up a 1st inning solo HR to Sabo, then did not allow another hit until Dawson hit a solo shot in the 8th, retiring 21 straight and 22 of the first 23. Both HR were mistakes, not hitting my location. Ozzie Smith beat out an infield single to short for the 3rd "official" hit. Will Clark actually doubled with 2 outs in the 9th, but was thrown out trying to stretch it into a triple, it's a hit but RBI doesn't count it as such).

Bob Welch OAK (W 8-0) vs CIN - 9 IP, 7 H, 4 K's
Funny thing was I scored all 8 runs in the first inning. R. Henderson led of game with a double, and scored, then came up again with the score 6-0 and hit a 436 ft blast just to the left of the scoreboard in center.
As for RBI....

Saberhagen is effective, but by 4th (5th is a stretch) becomes much less effective, but did throw 2 gems for me....
vs SF 6 IP 1 ER (gave up 2 runs, but one was unearned)
vs CAL 7 IP, 2 ER

Doyle Alexander pitched well into the the 6th leading Minnesota 10-2, but by then was throwing in the 40's so Morris came in, had a horrible 7th surrendering home runs to Laudner and Gaetti. Struggled through the 8th with both Puckett and Hrbek flying out deep to center field but didn't give up a run. Allowed a hit in 9th, but DP took care of that making the final 10-6.

Clemens can also get into the 5th for me. But when there are only 4 pitchers and some (Righetti) are complete ass, it irritates me. In one game I led CAL 4-1 going into bottom of the 3rd. By the start of the 7th I was down 14-6. Somehow I came back to win 22-17, George Bell broke the 17 all tie with a 3 run blast in top of the 9th. Key was effective til 3rd/4th inning and Henke was lights out in 8th and 9th, but Righetti again was complete ass. And with a capital ASS!!!!!!!

Now this is only based on a handful of pitchers so it not the most accurate assessment, nor is it a complete science.