1 Starting pitcher (best of series) in national tourney

[fightonusc]

1 SP also encourages pitchers to work shorter innings - i.e., throw less for strikeouts and more to induce early AB pop outs and foul outs. I think that's a more skillful way to have to pitch, and brings an element of strategy into play that just isn't there with 2 SP.

I don't agree with anything that fighton says here...

How does 1 SP NOT force you to try and work shorter innings rather than go 5+ pitches per AB for each out via K? I don't see how that wouldn't be the logical conclusion?

[TbT]

I need to be punched in the face...

[TbT]

How does 1 SP NOT force you to try and work shorter innings rather than go 5+ pitches per AB for each out via K? I don't see how that wouldn't be the logical conclusion?

Maybe dirt bag is fuckin with us here?  Theres the strategy of choosing your battles wisely.  With no one on in a tight game early on vs Boston for instance im going after Jim Rice in hopes of returing him and then tip toeing around Baylor.  You can not dick around with Boston's offense when facing them in 1SP.  You just have to pick your poison and go with it. 

Im not condoning pitching to Rice all that much, but im more likely to challenge him with an inside pitch or 2 for a surprise element.

[JoeDirt]

Okay, maybe I shouldn't have said that I don't agree with anything fighton said.  What I should have said is that I don't agree with this (the main point he was making):

1 SP also encourages pitchers to work shorter innings - i.e., throw less for strikeouts and more to induce early AB pop outs and foul outs. I think that's a more skillful way to have to pitch, and brings an element of strategy into play that just isn't there with 2 SP.

I personally do not pitch any differently in 1 SP or 2 SP.  I'm sure that is not the norm, though, so I'm not even factoring that in.

I'd submit that 2 SP requires more skill because mistakes become more magnified.  If I make one mistake pitch that gets crushed in 2 SP, that mistake is proportionally greater than the same mistake in a 1 SP game (ie, there's more offense in 1 SP so one mistake isn't as significant)...

[Attezz]

You must throw like 800 pitches a game in 1SP if your strategy is the same.

I don't change up my strategy for 2SP, but that's also because it's stupid and I never play that way, because it's not the way the game is meant to be played.

I pretty much only pitch to contact (penalty) when I use 1SP, get a couple strikes and make them swing, a good pitcher won't allow their starter to throw more than 13 pitches an inning, max, and it'll eventually choke the hitters out.

Think of it like a long spell in a good test match, you gotta smoke them out by giving them rubbish to hit, and fooling them and jamming them, and eventually they'll get frustrated and you can breeze through the middle innings

Also, two more things

1) If I ever play a series against you, Joey, I'm gonna be so classless (with my play, not like trash talking or anything), no infield fly, no allowing you to intentionally walk, and other stuff that is probably also classless that I can't exactly think of right now (like, maybe, taking your controller out as you try to retrieve a ball hit to the wall in the top of the 5th as I extend my lead to an insurmountable 18...or something).

2) You may contact Octo on behalf of myself, and tell him that I'm okay to play a few games of RBI possibly this weekend or the weekend of the 15th (but just RBI, to start)

[JoeDirt]

You must throw like 800 pitches a game in 1SP if your strategy is the same.

You just assume that my 1 SP pitching strategy is what most 2 SP pitching strategies are, then...interesting...

1) If I ever play a series against you, Joey, I'm gonna be so classless (with my play, not like trash talking or anything), no infield fly, no allowing you to intentionally walk, and other stuff that is probably also classless that I can't exactly think of right now (like, maybe, taking your controller out as you try to retrieve a ball hit to the wall in the top of the 5th as I extend my lead to an insurmountable 18...or something).

I wouldn't have it any other way.   That's the way I'm used to playing (save for the controller take out).  You might want to throw in a few fake B button pushes when you have me in a run down, too...'cause I'll be doing that.  And while you're at it, make sure if you throw a knuckle to push up ever so gently because I'll be trying to listen for it.

* The above is not the case if I agree to play by other rules before the game begins (ie, infield fly, etc)...

2) You may contact Octo on behalf of myself, and tell him that I'm okay to play a few games of RBI possibly this weekend or the weekend of the 15th (but just RBI, to start)

I may?  Thank you! 


(I will)

[Attezz]

2b) There was really no purpose for the above cricket reference, in fact, it doesn't even make any sense if you really think about it, I'm just really psyched up for the Sri Lanka/England series to start, since Murali's going for his 709th wicket, and, ya know, the possibility that bombs may go off in Kolombo during a test is also pretty exciting.

[TbT]

OK, Boston was probably not the best analogy for me to use earlier due to the madness of thier line-up.  Lemme try to further clarify. 

In 1 SP I like to exclusively stay outside.  Predictable for the most part, and my regular opponents know this.  On a great/good day this works fine in 1SP if you are hitting your spots.  I change up my approach a bit for the 900+ power guys and obviously wanna strike them out. 

My opponent could take, take, take all day but he'd be missing out on too many hittable strikes on the outside.  With that said on occasion(due to the inflated offense in 1SP)  Im more likely to take some chances and bust a guy like Burks/Rice inside.  I'll seelct a feast of famine point in the game and attack a hitter just to change things up.  I dont care to do this in 2 SP cause those balls have a propensity for ending up in the parking lot if they lock in on an inside pitch.  Mostly dictated by fear i guess but id rather play a safer game of 2SP and see what happens.

However based off my record and a few games that I got hammered in during the national tourney, perhaps i need to re-think my strategy for 2SP.  Bottom line, im comfortable doing what i do in 1SP.  The thought of doing that more so in 2SP makes my butt hairs curl.