CONGRATS TO MURRAY AND CARTER

[sucka free]

Both got inducted today for the hall of fame!!!!!  Each player needs 75 percent to get inducted...here are the other RBI'ers who came close.  Tough Luck Gantry with Sandberg (although we had a good debate about it on a previous post)....we will definitly get in on his second try.  An amazing list of RBI players who were on the ballot.  I counted 13, 12 of which didn't make it.

Eddie Murray  423  85.3%  
 Gary Carter  387  78.0%  
 
 Jim Rice  259  52.2%  
 A. Dawson  248  50.0%  
 Ryne Sandberg  248  49.2%  
  Rich Gossage  209  42.1%  
 Bert Blyleven  145  29.2%  
  Jack Morris  113  22.8%  
 Alan Trammell  70  14.1%  
 Don Mattingly  68  13.7%  
 Dale Murphy  58  11.7%  
  F. Valenzuela  31  6.3%  
 Keith Hernandez  30  6.0%  
  Vince Coleman  3  0.6%  
 
 

[ericdavisfan]

How can Donny Baseball NOT make it?  If he had played on 1 or 2 of the World Champion teams, he'd have been a lock!  If the idiots hadn't gone on strike in '94 he might have won his ring!

[Gantry]

Mattingly had a few great years, but didn't really put up the stats over a long career.  I was surprised that he was so low last year, then I looked him up on baseballreference.com...

I officially don't get this first ballot thing.  Sandberg is the best second baseman of his era, everyone knows he's getting into the Hall, yet he gets less than half the votes?  

Congrats to Gary Carter!  I'll update the page tomorrow...

[ericdavisfan]

I think that there is some extra prestige with being a 1st ballot hall of famer.  Luis Aparicio and Pee Wee Reese were great in their generations, but didn't make it in until 1984.  I think Sandberg will just have to wait until the competition is too weak and his stats stand out more.

[Big Hath]

Unfortunately, with the way baseball has gone over the past few years with inflated stats, Ryno's (and the other candidate's) numbers will stand out less and less as more people who have played recently get put on the ballot.

Does anyone know who will be on the ballot next year for the first time?

[Big Hath]

I just found a good article by Jayson Stark along those lines:

http://espn.go.com/mlb/columns/stark_jayson/1488642.html

[ericdavisfan]

That's a good article.  I was shocked that Andre Dawson didn't make the Hall!!!  He was as good in every aspect as Gary Carter.  He could hit, run, throw...he was the whole package (and I HATED the guy, because I hate the Cubs!!!)  Despite that hate, there is no doubt in my mind that the Hawk and Sandberg should be inducted, probably ahead of Carter

[HoJoFan]

I just want to know who those 3 guys are who voted for coleman, SL natives, or just guys who vote for everyone on the ballot?

[jcbball86]

i dont get it, how come Dawson and Sandburg got the same number of votes, but a different percentage? shouldnt they be the same or is it something different?

[sucka free]

great question....i have no idea

[ericdavisfan]

I just want to know who those 3 guys are who voted for coleman, SL natives, or just guys who vote for everyone on the ballot?

I'll bet the guys that voted for Vince are the same guys that rolled him up in that tarp!

[sucka free]

coleman the crackhead....i wonder what he is doing these days....stealing cars?

[nightwulf]

coleman the crackhead....i wonder what he is doing these days....stealing cars?

Back in the day, he could probably outrun cars ...

Nightwulf

[jcbball86]

i dont get it, how come Dawson and Sandburg got the same number of votes, but a different percentage? shouldnt they be the same or is it something different?

i just figured it out, i looked on the site and sandburg has 244, not 248
honest mistake