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Started by Shooty, 12/06/08, 12:33:37 PM

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Darky

Where is all the evidence?

From all the games I watched in the fantasy RBI season that I commissioned, there is no evidence in any matter that suggests that players can't hit the ball just as far to the opposite field. I've seen moonshots go the other way by players who are in the top tier in power ratings and I have seen players in the bottom tier power rating hit the ball just as far the other way.

It should be noted that the contact to power relationship as well as where the majority of the balls are pitched does play a significant role in terms of the frequency of balls going the other way---in simulated games. Balls being pulled happen at a higher frequency vs balls going the other way from what I have observed in simulated games---due to pitchers coming inside more.
80's at eight

Re-Peat

I've been trying to hit opposite field homers, and what I've found (while specifically looking for it) matches with what Stock said:

Quote from: Stock on 12/06/08, 04:02:38 PM
I would agree that it is much harder to hit an opposite field HR.
I have always just thought that it is nearly impossible to hit the ball on the sweet spot without hitting it foul.
It seems that the farthest balls I hit the other way are foul balls.

It is harder to go the other way, but not because of diminished power. 
Quote from: TecmoBowl Terror on 12/29/10, 07:51:27 PM
anyone ever notice that if you drop a deuce on someones windshield in sub-freezing temperatures, its pretty damn hard to get off once it freezes.

Stock

Way to dig that up.

That does make sense.  I think it is nearly impossible to bunt a ball fair from the 1/4 swing position.  Yet it is easy to bunt a ball fair from the 3/4 swing position.
This supports that it would be difficult to hit the ball in fair play on the sweet spot.

Not that bunting has much to do with hitting homeruns, but it does show that it is more difficult to put the ball in play when you are behind the pitch.
Quote from: Gantry on 07/27/12, 12:39:03 PM
I said it once and I'll say it again - stock is smart

nomaaa

it's meaningless to argue. we'll just have to bump it every once in a while until nightwulf and his team of scientists figure this out.


though, they still never admitted to being wrong in the early throw bop case
Quote from: GDavis on 10/13/17, 11:29:39 AM
Congrats Nomaaa.  Dee-Nee's new Sandwich King.

Darky

Quote from: nomaaaaa on 01/23/10, 09:57:42 PM
though, they still never admitted to being wrong in the early throw bop case

It doesn't exist man, stop being so evangelical about it. There is no evidence for the early throw bop theory sucka... 8)
80's at eight

Shooty

You guys probably also don't believe that moving back in the box during a swing will more likely create a pop up either.


Re-Peat

I don't think I ever tried hitting while moving back in the box...

I do like doing the Happy Gilmore swing though.
Quote from: TecmoBowl Terror on 12/29/10, 07:51:27 PM
anyone ever notice that if you drop a deuce on someones windshield in sub-freezing temperatures, its pretty damn hard to get off once it freezes.

nomaaa

Quote from: Shooty on 01/25/10, 07:49:39 AM
You guys probably also don't believe that moving back in the box during a swing will more likely create a pop up either.

i routinely ichiro for low power guys and backup for power guys
Quote from: GDavis on 10/13/17, 11:29:39 AM
Congrats Nomaaa.  Dee-Nee's new Sandwich King.

BeefMaster

I like the term "Ichiro" for moving up in the box while you swing.
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Joe Theismann

Shooty

Nightwulf...since you're back, please look into this.  Ideally this weekend.

LMK.  :-*

nightwulf

I'm pretty much done with this RBI shit, sorry.

Shooty


The Greeter

I love this shit.  I had blindly played RBI for so long before I came to this site.  Now I have raging debates on BOP, moving up/down in the box, opposite field power, etc.  Great stuff.  To me it makes the game even more fun to know the inner workings.  Someday, Nightwulf, I hope you can look at RBI again - your work is unreal.

Shooty

I'm getting closer to proving my theory.  Stay tuned.

Turd

Quote from: Shooty on 01/25/10, 07:49:39 AM
You guys probably also don't believe that moving back in the box during a swing will more likely create a pop up either.

It's funny, because it's true.  This "moving back in the box" thing has been proven.  Pressing back is more likely to cause a fly ball, and moving forward causes a ground ball more often.

Shooty

Quote from: Turd on 01/15/14, 07:25:22 AM
Quote from: Shooty on 01/25/10, 07:49:39 AM
You guys probably also don't believe that moving back in the box during a swing will more likely create a pop up either.

It's funny, because it's true.  This "moving back in the box" thing has been proven.  Pressing back is more likely to cause a fly ball, and moving forward causes a ground ball more often.

Exactly. Just like moving towards the plate will more likely make you pull the ball and moving away from the plate makes it more likely to go oppo.

Turd

Only because of bat angle. The up/down thing is actually part of the code, the same code that the new ground ball hack calls. It basically makes the player press up on the pad (without actually moving him) so it's m ore likely a ground ball.

As a batter you can kind of control the type of hit you want.

Shooty

It will be interesting to see Hornsby hit in the Fantasy RBI league.  With a 0 contact rating, his opposite field hits should go as far as everything else he hits.

Gantry

What about The Range?

hiyo