Players on the Wrong Team

[Shooty]

Is there a list of players who, at the end of 1987, weren't on the teams that they represent on RBI?

I know Reggie Jackson was with the A's in 1987, Don Baylor was with the Twins, Ray Knight was with Baltimore, etc.  Is there a list somewhere?  If not, just post other examples.

[Gantry]

Remember that the teams were split between the 86 (Red Sox, Angels, Mets, Astros) and 87 (Twins, Tigers, Giants, Cardinals) playoff teams.  So for the former you should probably use 86 instead of 87.  Don't know if that's precisely how they rostered it but that is definitely how those teams were chosen. 

[Shooty]

Remember that the teams were split between the 86 (Red Sox, Angels, Mets, Astros) and 87 (Twins, Tigers, Giants, Cardinals) playoff teams.  So for the former you should probably use 86 instead of 87.  Don't know if that's precisely how they rostered it but that is definitely how those teams were chosen.

Yeah, I know, but would still be interested in a list.  Besides Baylor, is there any other player that could have been on two teams in the game? 86 Red Sox and 87 Twins.

[Gantry]

Well make the list and I'll put it in the wiki, HOW ABOUT THAT

[BeefMaster]

Ellis Burks wasn't on the '86 Red Sox - '87 was his rookie year.

Lots of these on the All-Star teams, although those were deliberately hacked together to avoid having duplicate players, so not sure if they count.

[GDavis]

Ellis Burks wasn't on the '86 Red Sox - '87 was his rookie year.

Lots of these on the All-Star teams, although those were deliberately hacked together to avoid having duplicate players, so not sure if they count.

What year was Tim Burks on the team?

[Gantry]

It's Shooty's list but I would say not to count All Star teams since they were as you said randomly cobbled together. 

[BeefMaster]

I think "players who have the wrong year's stats (or the wrong stats)" is also an interesting corollary to this.  Besides Burks, Reggie Jackson and Tony Armas are the most obvious examples, and there are also some smaller things like them pushing Tim Laudner's batting average over the Mendoza line, presumably to look nicer, and some pitchers' ERAs being changed because they only supported numbers up to 3.55.

[Gantry]

IIRC if the ERA was highly over 3.55 they subtracted said number from their actual ERA.  That's how some people like Don Sutton have crazy low ERAs

[BeefMaster]

I think it was 2.55 that they subtracted, because the lowest possible ERA was 1.00 (they basically just added 100 to the integer value and put in a decimal point), but I am pretty sure you're right that they did any manual adjustments like they did with batters.

[Gantry]

Ah yes, good call

[Shooty]

It's Shooty's list but I would say not to count All Star teams since they were as you said randomly cobbled together.

I would only count All Star players if they are representing the wrong league.

[ultimate7]

There should be a special mention for Pedrique who was probably not good enough to make a minor league all-star game

[nomaaa]

he didn't even start in half the pirates games in 87

[Gantry]

That really was a weird addition, remember researching awhile back and Hubie Brooks made 3298749387 times more sense. 

[Shooty]

Again, don't forget the "one from every team" concept.  Pedrique did hit over .300 and they needed a Pirate and there was no dominant NL SS.  And the Expos already had Raines and Galarraga.  And Tim Burke!

[Gantry]

Is every team represented though? 

[Shooty]

We went through all this before.

All 12 NL teams are represented.

12 of the 14 AL teams are represented.

Max of 3 players per team.

[Gantry]

Like I remember anything that happened since I started drinking. 

Interesting, who are the unrepresented AL teams?  We should find proper replacements. 

[Shooty]

Here was my shot at explaining it.  Although the first person I put on my teams (Rickey Henderson), I got the team wrong (Oak instead of NYY)

https://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?topic=2789.msg33995#msg33995