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[Man of Steal]

Damn, this is hard as shit.  I still need 5 people and only have $20 grand, so it's back to the drawing board.... 

[erhajj]

would you like some help?

my name on the site is ernestleifB.  You can send a copy of your roster with teh description of the league that you are planning to play in and the ballpark that you are going to use to that name and I will help you out.

[GDavis]

Is your first name really Ernest?

Tee Hee!

[erhajj]

Nope.  It is an internet name based upon the name of one relative plus the name of another.

[Gerlost]

Leif as in Leif Garrett?

[erhajj]

I am not related to Leif Garrett.  However, the spelling of 'Leif' in 'ernestleifB' is the same.

[Man of Steal]

would you like some help?

my name on the site is ernestleifB.  You can send a copy of your roster with teh description of the league that you are planning to play in and the ballpark that you are going to use to that name and I will help you out.

Thanks for the offer, but I made some sacrifices and managed to finish a team.  It's only a free trial league, being that I have exactly $0 to my name right now.

Here's what I've got.  Don't laugh at me.

Lineup:
Name (Bats) Pos Order % PA/162 AB/162 HR RBI SB AVG OBP SLG Salary
Rickey Henderson '95 (R) LF* 1 100 547 457 9 54 32 .300 .407 .447 $5.55M 
Rod Carew '72 (L) 2B* 2 100 621 562 0 51 12 .318 .369 .379 $3.91M 
Jose Canseco '90 (R) CF* 3 100 563 481 37 101 19 .274 .371 .543 $4.51M 
Fred McGriff '02 (L) 1B* 4 100 595 523 30 103 1 .273 .353 .505 $3.78M 
Mike Bordick '96 (R) SS* 5 100 587 525 5 54 5 .240 .307 .318 $2.72M 
Lloyd Waner '30 (L) RF* 6 100 288 273 1 36 3 .362 .376 .427 $2.95M 
Ramon Hernandez '03 (R) C * 7 100 536 483 21 78 0 .273 .331 .458 $3.02M 
Eric Chavez '03 (L) 3B* 8 100 654 588 29 101 8 .282 .350 .514 $5.20M 

Bench:
Covelli Crisp '02 (S) LF* Bench 100 143 127 1 9 4 .260 .314 .386 $1.36M 
Cozy Dolan '12 (R) 3B* Bench 100 54 53 0 7 3 .280 .294 .400 $405K 
Damion Easley '96 (R) SS* Bench 100 75 67 2 10 3 .343 .384 .448 $907K 
Bo Jackson '86 (R) LF* Bench 100 91 82 2 9 3 .207 .286 .329 $237K 
Mickey Livingston '49 (R) C * Bench 100 63 59 4 12 0 .298 .333 .544 $770K 
Jim Morrison '88 (R) 3B* Bench 100 74 74 0 6 0 .216 .216 .284 $200K

(Mine is an NL leauge, otherwise I would have Coco in the outfield and Canseco at DH.)

Rotation:

Pitcher Role % W-L SV IP/162 ERA OAV WHIP K/9 BB/9 Salary
Barry Zito '02 (L) Starter #1 100 23-5 0 229.1 2.75 0.218 1.13 7.15 3.06 $8.04M
Chief Bender '13 (R) Starter #2 100 21-10 13 250.2 2.21 0.228 1.13 5.13 2.24 $8.78M
Blue Moon Odom '72 (R) Starter #3 100 15-6 0 203.1 2.50 0.234 1.29 3.98 4.03 $5.82M
Freddie Fitzsimmons '40 (R) Starter #4 100 16-2 1 142.1 2.81 0.233 1.08 2.34 1.67 $4.63M
Bruce Chen '00 (L) Starter #5 100 7-4 0 134.0 3.29 0.232 1.21 7.52 3.09 $4.45M

Bullpen:

Pitcher Role % W-L SV IP/162 ERA OAV WHIP K/9 BB/9 Salary
Bill McAfee '32 (R) Mop Up 100 6-1 0 43.2 3.92 0.287 1.67 2.18 4.79 $731K
Bob Wickman '93 (R) Long A 100 14-4 4 140.0 4.63 0.284 1.61 4.50 4.44 $2.84M
Big Jeff Pfeffer '11 (R) Long B 100 7-5 2 104.1 4.73 0.301 1.78 2.23 5.29 $1.44M
John Rocker '00 (L) Setup A 100 1-2 24 53.0 2.89 0.210 1.70 13.08 8.15 $1.74M
Danny Coombs '65 (L) Setup B 100 0-2 0 47.0 4.79 0.292 1.64 6.70 4.40 $991K
Dennis Eckersley '92 (R) Closer A 100 7-1 51 80.0 1.91 0.211 0.91 10.46 1.24 $4.82M

[erhajj]

If this were a full season team it would lose about 90 games.  Never ever spend more than 200K on a bench player for a full season team because you get minor leaguers that play like players who have values of 900,000 to 4 mil or so anyhow.  Use them as your bench. 

Also, hitters who are home run hitters and strike out a lot tend to not do well in the sim.  The reasons are long and complex but the 90 canseco will disapoint you.  Also, if you do not have over 550 PA per 162games per position then your players are going to be tired. 

How many innings on your staff total and what ballpark are you choosing?

Also, it is very very important to check on how well your player's individual seasons fair when compaired to the league average for their given league and their given year.  OVA+ and OBPS+ for hitters.  They are not priced according to that but players will perform based upon that.  If you find a pitcher with great numbers from a good hitting year (i.e. the 1994 Maddux) or vice versa, that player will always do well in the sim.

Good luck to you.

[Dryden]

You know you got the wrong Waner, right?  Paul was the good one.

[GDavis]

Dude, he's talking shit about your Waner.

[Dryden]

Dude, stop stalking my posts.

[Dryden]

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[Man of Steal]

If this were a full season team it would lose about 90 games.  Never ever spend more than 200K on a bench player for a full season team because you get minor leaguers that play like players who have values of 900,000 to 4 mil or so anyhow.  Use them as your bench. 

Also, hitters who are home run hitters and strike out a lot tend to not do well in the sim.  The reasons are long and complex but the 90 canseco will disapoint you.  Also, if you do not have over 550 PA per 162games per position then your players are going to be tired. 

How many innings on your staff total and what ballpark are you choosing?

Also, it is very very important to check on how well your player's individual seasons fair when compaired to the league average for their given league and their given year.  OVA+ and OBPS+ for hitters.  They are not priced according to that but players will perform based upon that.  If you find a pitcher with great numbers from a good hitting year (i.e. the 1994 Maddux) or vice versa, that player will always do well in the sim.

Good luck to you.

Yeah, I would have done it way differently if I was drafting for a full season... but this is my first team, so I figured I'd take a bunch of guys that I like, and fill in the rest with what money I had available. 

Thanks for the advice though, I'll keep it in mind.

[GDavis]

Dude, stop stalking my posts.

I posted here before you did, dude.  I guess the stalker has become the stalkee.

[Dryden]

Touche', pussycat.

[TempoGL]

man of steal, your bullpen (except eckersley) would die a horrible, horrible death.  look at WHIP...and I always take pitchers with as low of an opponent's average against.

maybe you shouldn't listen to me...i've ran like 60 teams, and won a total of one championship.  i do have an all time record over .500, though.

[Man of Steal]

Welp, the boys finished a whopping 8-2, 1st in my 6 team league. 

Freddie Fitzsimmons was NUTS, pitching 2 complete games for 2 wins, with 1 shutout.  Zito struck out 11 in 15 innings.  And the lowest WHIP of my staff? Loosey Brucey Chen (0.83.)  The starters had a 0.94 WHIP and a 2.49 ERA.

The bullpen guys who played (Eck, Rocker, Wickman and Coombs) finished with a 1.11 WHIP and a 1.20 ERA (with 0.00s for Eck and Coombs.)

Battingwise, Lloyd Waner wailed a .359, Fred McGriff had 10 RBIs (and slugged .575,) and Canseco (while only hitting a piddly .179) hit the most HRs on the team with 3. Easley came off the bench 4 times, getting hit by a pitch and whalloping a double.  Henderson stole 5 bases.

Yes, my team would likely have been CREAMED in a full season, no doubt about that... but for a 10 game run, I did well.

[erhajj]

just for reference I am going to post a selection of players in their RBI season.  I am thinking of starting a league based upon RBI and these are the players that would be used (I chose the season that came the most close to the player's RBI stats and in the case of players who were on both the arcade and NES game I used their NES season:

[erhajj]

NES HITTERS:

   Barrett, Marty   1986 Boston Red Sox   R   628   4   .286   .353   .381   72   $4,269,357   --   --   B+/C+

   Buckner, Bill   1985 Boston Red Sox   L   673   16   .299   .325   .447   68   $4,505,585   --   B/A-   --   --   --   --

   Boggs, Wade   1986 Boston Red Sox   L   583   8   .357   .453   .486   56   $6,859,457   --   --   --   B/C+   --   --

   Rice, Jim   1986 Boston Red Sox   R   621   20   .324   .384   .490   66   $5,224,523   --   --   --   --   --   B-/B+

Baylor, Don   1986 Boston Red Sox   R   588   31   .238   .344   .439   50   $3,052,225   --   C/B   --   --   --   D-/D

   Evans, Dwight   1986 Boston Red Sox   R   532   26   .259   .376   .476   62   $4,461,989   --   --   --   --   --   B/C+

   Gedman, Rich   1986 Boston Red Sox   L   464   16   .258   .315   .424   40   $2,870,839   A/A   

   Owen, Spike   1986 Boston Red Sox   S   531   1   .231   .300   .309   68   $2,620,157   --   --   --   --   A-/B+   --

   Henderson, Dave   1986 Boston Red Sox   R   390   15   .265   .335   .459   70   $2,418,708   --   --   --   --   --   B/B

   Burks, Ellis   1987 Boston Red Sox   R   558   20   .272   .324   .441   91   $4,123,782   --   --   --   --   --   A-/A

   Armas, Tony   1984 Boston Red Sox   R   639   43   .268   .300   .531   68   $3,358,236   --   --   --   --   --   C+/A

   Sullivan, Marc   1986 Boston Red Sox   R   119   1   .193   .260   .252   42   $243,225   B/B   --

   Pettis, Gary   1986 California Angels   S   539   5   .258   .339   .343   94   $3,361,427   --   --   --   --   --   B+/A+

   Decinces, Doug   1986 California Angels   R   512   26   .256   .325   .459   57   $3,617,176   --   --   --   A/C   D-/D   --

   Joyner, Wally   1986 California Angels   L   593   22   .290   .348   .457   53   $4,327,293   --   C+/B-

   Jackson, Reggie   1982 California Angels   L   530   39   .275   .375   .532   64   $4,097,908   --   --   --   --   --   C/D

   Downing, Brian   1986 California Angels   R   513   20   .267   .389   .452   68   $5,155,680   --   --   --   --   --   A/B-

Grich, Bobby   1986 California Angels   R   313   9   .268   .354   .412   62   $2,337,663   --   A+/D   B/D   C+/D   --   --

   Schofield, Dick   1986 California Angels   S   458   13   .249   .321   .397   85   $3,672,869   --   --   --   --   A-/B   --

   Boone, Bob   1982 California Angels   R   472   7   .256   .310   .337   40   $2,444,746   B+/B-   -

   Burleson, Rick   1986 California Angels   R   271   5   .284   .363   .391   57   $2,349,258   --   --   A+/D   A/D   A/D   --

   Hendrick, George   1986 California Angels   R   283   14   .272   .332   .473   61   $2,319,552   --   D/D   --   --   --   C/D+

   Wilfong, Rob   1980 Minnesota Twins   L   418   8   .248   .308   .368   78   $2,374,297   --   --   A+/C+   --   --   A/C+

   Jones, Ruppert   1986 California Angels   L   393   17   .229   .339   .427   74   $3,031,027   --   --   --   --   --   B/C

   Trammell, Alan   1987 Detroit Tigers   R   597   28   .343   .402   .551   72   $7,019,414   --   --   --   --   A-/C+   --

   Gibson, Kirk   1987 Detroit Tigers   L   487   24   .277   .372   .489   85   $4,586,777   --   --   --   --   --   C+/B

   Evans, Darrell   1987 Detroit Tigers   L   499   34   .257   .379   .501   54   $5,453,389   --   A/C   --   D-/D   --   --

   Nokes, Matt   1987 Detroit Tigers   L   461   32   .289   .345   .536   43   $3,888,831   A/B+   --   --   D/D+   --   D/C

   Herndon, Larry   1987 Detroit Tigers   R   225   9   .324   .378   .520   59   $2,705,065   --   --   --   --   --   A-/D

   Lemon, Chet   1987 Detroit Tigers   R   470   20   .277   .376   .481   71   $4,970,319   --   --   --   --   --   A/A

   Whitaker, Lou   1987 Detroit Tigers   L   604   16   .265   .341   .427   72   $3,656,336   --   --   B/C   --   --   --

   Brookens, Tom   1987 Detroit Tigers   R   444   13   .241   .295   .376   67   $2,258,982   --   --   D/D   B/C   C-/D+   --

   Sheridan, Pat   1987 Detroit Tigers   L   421   6   .259   .327   .361   85   $2,308,153   --   --   --   --   --   C+/C

   Heath, Mike   1987 Detroit Tigers   R   270   8   .281   .339   .430   53   $2,063,596   B+/B   D-/C   D-/D   D/D+   D-/D   A+/D-

   Madlock, Bill   1987 Detroit Tigers   R   326   14   .279   .351   .460   53   $2,415,027   --   C/D+   --   D+/D+   --   --

   Bergman, Dave   1987 Detroit Tigers   L   172   6   .273   .379   .453   54   $2,214,821   --   B/D   --   --   --   D-/D-

   Hatcher, Billy   1986 Houston Astros   R   419   6   .258   .302   .356   93   $2,451,017   --   --   --   --   --   B/C+

   Cruz, Jose   1986 Houston Astros   L   479   10   .278   .351   .403   69   $3,153,466   --   --   --   --   --   B/C

   Walling, Denny   1986 Houston Astros   L   382   13   .312   .367   .479   56   $3,585,740   --   A+/D   --   B+/D   --   C/D

   Davis, Glenn   1986 Houston Astros   R   574   31   .265   .344   .493   52   $4,294,837   --   B/C+   --   --   --   --

   Bass, Kevin   1986 Houston Astros   S   591   20   .311   .357   .486   81   $4,908,732   --   --   --   --   --   B+/B

   Doran, Bill   1986 Houston Astros   S   550   6   .276   .368   .373   86   $4,539,492   --   --   B-/D+   --   --   --

   Reynolds, Craig   1986 Houston Astros   L   313   6   .249   .274   .348   65   $1,472,324   --   A+/D   --   B+/D   A/D   A/D

   Ashby, Alan   1986 Houston Astros   S   315   7   .257   .333   .371   40   $2,091,335   B/A   --   --   --   --   --

   Lopes, Davey   1986 Houston Astros   R   255   7   .275   .381   .420   86   $3,829,956   --   --   --   D/D+   --   A+/C+

   Garner, Phil   1986 Houston Astros   R   313   9   .265   .329   .415   76   $2,392,245   --   --   D-/D   D/C   --   --

   Thon, Dickie   1986 Houston Astros   R   278   3   .248   .318   .335   74   $1,613,203   --   --   --   --   A-/D   --

   Puhl, Terry   1985 Houston Astros   L   194   2   .284   .343   .418   77   $2,041,288   --   --   --   --   --   A+/C

   Gladden, Dan   1987 Minnesota Twins   R   438   8   .249   .312   .361   89   $2,733,289   --   --   --   --   --   A-/B

   Gaetti, Gary   1987 Minnesota Twins   R   584   31   .257   .303   .485   71   $3,818,379   --   --   --   A/B-   --   --

   Puckett, Kirby   1987 Minnesota Twins   R   624   28   .332   .367   .534   79   $5,391,645   --   --   --   --   --   B+/A

   Hrbek, Kent   1987 Minnesota Twins   L   477   34   .285   .389   .545   54   $6,416,288   --   A/B   --   --   --   --

   Brunansky, Tom   1987 Minnesota Twins   R   532   32   .259   .352   .489   74   $4,894,400   --   --   --   --   --   A/B

   Gagne, Greg   1987 Minnesota Twins   R   437   10   .265   .310   .430   73   $2,338,173   --   --   B/C   --   A-/C+   B+/C

   Laudner, Tim   1987 Minnesota Twins   R   288   16   .191   .252   .389   41   $972,451   B/B   D-/C   --   --   --   --

   Lombardozzi, Steve   1987 Minnesota Twins   R   432   8   .238   .298   .352   66   $1,960,478   --   --   B/C   --   --   --

   Smalley, Roy   1987 Minnesota Twins   S   309   8   .275   .352   .411   47   $2,311,746   --   --   --   C/B   D-/D   --

   Davidson, Mark   1987 Minnesota Twins   R   150   1   .267   .321   .327   86   $1,151,056   --   --   --   --   --   A+/D

   Bush, Randy   1987 Minnesota Twins   L   293   11   .253   .349   .413   73   $2,606,092   --   A/D   --   --   --   B/D

   Larkin, Gene   1987 Minnesota Twins   S   233   4   .266   .340   .382   52   $1,644,551   --   C/D   --   --   --   --

   Dykstra, Lenny   1986 New York Mets   L   431   8   .295   .377   .445   93   $5,125,346   --   --   --   --   --   A/B

   Wilson, Mookie   1986 New York Mets   S   381   9   .289   .345   .430   91   $3,152,267   --   --   --   --   --   B/B

   Hernandez, Keith   1987 New York Mets   L   587   18   .290   .377   .436   51   $4,112,840   --   B+/B   --   --   --   --

   Carter, Gary   1986 New York Mets   R   490   24   .255   .337   .439   43   $3,948,339   A-/A+   D/A+   --   D/B+   --   D/A

   Strawberry, Darryl   1986 New York Mets   L   475   27   .259   .358   .507   85   $3,931,410   --   --   --   --   --   C+/C

   Backman, Wally   1986 New York Mets   S   387   1   .320   .376   .385   76   $3,372,436   --   --   C/C-   --   --   --

   Knight, Ray   1986 New York Mets   R   486   11   .298   .351   .424   55   $3,068,937   --   C+/D   --   B-/D+   --   --

   Santana, Rafael   1986 New York Mets   R   394   1   .218   .285   .254   61   $1,506,104   --   --   A/C-   --   A-/C   --

   Heep, Danny   1986 New York Mets   L   195   5   .282   .379   .421   70   $2,236,515   --   --   --   --   --   A-/D

[erhajj]

Teufel, Tim1985 Minnesota TwinsR43410.260.335.39964$2,786,887----B/C-------

Johnson, Howard1986 New York MetsS22010.245.341.44571$1,615,825------D/DD/DD-/D

Mazzilli, Lee1986 New York MetsS1513.245.401.35174$1,840,386--A+/D------A+/D

Uribe, Jose1987 San Francisco GiantsS3095.291.343.42478$2,925,712--------A-/B--

Mitchell, Kevin1987 San Francisco GiantsR46422.280.350.47467$3,576,882------B/C+D-/DD/C

Leonard, Jeffrey1987 San Francisco GiantsR50319.280.309.46784$3,046,096----------C/D+

Maldonado, Candy1987 San Francisco GiantsR44220.292.346.50974$3,310,384----------C+/D+

Clark, Will1987 San Francisco GiantsL52935.308.371.58073$5,722,119--B-/A

Brenly, Bob1987 San Francisco GiantsR37518.267.348.46763$3,281,959B/AD-/A--D/C+

Davis, Chili1987 San Francisco GiantsS50024.250.344.44284$3,920,872----------C+/B-

Thompson, Robby1987 San Francisco GiantsR42010.262.338.41984$2,563,738----C+/C--

Spilman, Harry1987 San Francisco GiantsL901.267.327.35657$737,722D-/D-D+/C--C/B

Speier, Chris1987 San Francisco GiantsR31711.249.342.39469$2,443,975----A/DA+/CA/D--

Aldrete, Mike1987 San Francisco GiantsL3579.325.396.46264$3,766,914--A/D------B+/C

Youngblood, Joel1987 San Francisco GiantsR913.253.296.38569$760,707------D/D---A+/D

Coleman, Vince1987 St. Louis CardinalsS6233.289.363.35896$3,979,569----------C/C+

Smith, Ozzie1987 St. Louis CardinalsS6000.303.392.38383$6,005,211--------A+/B+

Herr, Tom1987 St. Louis CardinalsS5102.263.346.33174$3,483,240----A/C+

Clark, Jack1987 St. Louis CardinalsR41935.286.459.59751$6,886,695--C/A-------D-/D+

McGee, Willie1987 St. Louis CardinalsS62011.285.312.43485$3,497,977--------D-/DB/A

Pendleton, Terry1987 St. Louis CardinalsS58312.286.360.41280$4,845,915------B-/A

Ford, Curt1987 St. Louis CardinalsL2283.285.325.40887$1,999,000----------B/B
Pena, Tony1986 Pittsburgh PiratesR51010.288.356.40654$3,658,821C/AD-/B+------

Oquendo, Jose1987 St. Louis CardinalsS2481.286.408.33566$2,944,703--A+/DA+/DC/DB+/DA+/D

Morris, John1987 St. Louis CardinalsR1573.261.314.40882$1,355,445----------A-/D

Lindeman, Jim1987 St. Louis CardinalsR2078.208.253.38666$754,277--B/D------B-/C-

Lake, Steve1987 St. Louis CardinalsR1792.251.289.34643$1,042,350A/C

Randolph, Willie1987 New York YankeesR4497.305.411.41467$5,773,328----B+/B+------

Mattingly, Don1987 New York YankeesL56930.327.378.55952$6,343,518--A/B+------

Bell, George1987 Toronto Blue JaysR61047.308.352.60568$5,314,031----D-/D-D-/D--D+/C

Canseco, Jose1987 Oakland AthleticsR63031.257.310.47073$3,075,348----------C+/B

Ripken, Cal1986 Baltimore OriolesR62725.282.355.46163$5,005,501--------A/B---

Baines, Harold1987 Chicago White SoxL50520.293.352.47947$3,572,427----------C/B

Brett, George1977 Kansas City RoyalsL56422.312.373.53281$7,127,092------B/AD-/D+--

Schroeder, Bill1987 Milwaukee BrewersR25014.332.379.54848$2,592,896A/B+D-/C--------

McGwire, Mark1987 Oakland AthleticsR55749.289.370.61851$5,203,213--B/C+--D/D--D-/D

Seitzer, Kevin1987 Kansas City RoyalsR64115.323.399.47063$5,357,555--B-/C--B-/B--D/C

Molitor, Paul1987 Milwaukee BrewersR46516.353.438.56675$6,545,713----C/DC+/D+----

Franco, Julio1987 Cleveland IndiansR4958.319.389.42882$4,926,771----B/C---B/C--

Raines, Tim1987 Montreal ExposS53018.330.429.52691$8,835,004----------A-/B+

Sandberg, Ryne1987 Chicago CubsR52616.294.367.44275$4,726,126----A/B------

Santiago, Benito1987 San Diego PadresR54618.300.324.46773$3,107,618C/A----

Dawson, Andre1987 Chicago CubsR62449.287.328.56869$4,489,384----------B+/C

Davis, Eric1987 Cincinnati RedsR47437.293.399.59395$7,394,720----------A/A+

Schmidt, Mike1987 Philadelphia PhilliesR52235.293.388.54855$6,271,992--A+/B--A/B+D-/D--

Galarraga, Andres1987 Montreal ExposR55113.305.361.45959$3,423,936--B/A---------

Pedrique, Al1987 Pittsburgh PiratesR2521.294.349.35370$1,866,674----B/DB/D+B+/C---

Guerrero, Pedro1987 Los Angeles DodgersR54527.338.416.53967$5,740,979--D/B-------C/D

Murphy, Dale1987 Atlanta BravesR56944.295.417.58070$6,960,307----------B-/B

Gwynn, Tony1987 San Diego PadresL5897.370.447.51187$8,707,790----------B/B-

Kruk, John1987 San Diego PadresL44720.313.406.48880$5,533,420--A/B------B-/D+