Bush League or Acceptable??

[JoeDirt]

JoeDirt will not and has not stooped to this level of lowness.

I prefer to have a rule established before play.  I personally do not see it as a problem, but Ryno, I play gentleman's rules with you because 1) it's just a friendly game--no money involved, 2) you uphold the same rules, and 3) it's been established btwn the two of us before game play began.

However, I prefer to play without the infield fly rule for the simple reason of it being too subjective.  Yeah, you can usually tell what is catchable and what is not, but what about the deep semi-line drive to the 2b where if he takes a half step back, it bounces, if he takes a half step forward, it doesn't.  It's just too subjective.

[Ryno23]

JoeDirt will not and has not stooped to this level of lowness.

I prefer to have a rule established before play.  I personally do not see it as a problem, but Ryno, I play gentleman's rules with you because 1) it's just a friendly game--no money involved, 2) you uphold the same rules, and 3) it's been established btwn the two of us before game play began.

However, I prefer to play without the infield fly rule for the simple reason of it being too subjective.  Yeah, you can usually tell what is catchable and what is not, but what about the deep semi-line drive to the 2b where if he takes a half step back, it bounces, if he takes a half step forward, it doesn't.  It's just too subjective.

you forgot #4:   Ryno Sucks ass

[Stock]

Right.  And there have been times where the ball lands in the short OF where I have gotten burned dropping the ball (since my opponent was paying attention and kept his runners 1/2 way b/w bases).

In my opinion, there is nothing better than when McGwire comes up with the bases loaded and completely chokes hitting a super shitty high fly in the infield.  He get's what he deserves in RBI... a double play and 3 LOB>

Don't get me wrong, I am not going to pull this off against my little niece, but a competetive player should be able to take it, if he hits a shitty infield fly ball.

[BeeJay]

I think it's a cheap move, but aren't cheap moves what video games are all about?  When I play nintendo with my friends, we always try to piss each other off.  Also, I agree that there's an element of risk with the infield fly.  Not only can you mess up the double play, but it could bounce over your head or off it.  To me, having an infield fly rule is just like any other rule modification.  Some people like to play slurve, some straight pitch, but I like to play anything goes.

[Stock]

When I play nintendo with my friends, we always try to piss each other off. 

Can I hear an Amen?

[malnuboy]

kind of like the original MK you could just keep sweeping the guy and he would never be able to recover.

[TempoGL]

the game also allows for you to give your controller a little pull thus jarring the nintedo and fucking up the game. You can say it was an accident and escape the obvious loss you had coming. This is not to say this is acceptable.

the game also allows you to cover the shadow of a fly ball with your hand.

the game also allows you to punch your opponent in the face as he is attempting to hit your Roger Clemens fastball.

the game allows you to pause, say you have to go to the bathroom, and then have sex with your opponents wife instead.

None of these are acceptable.  Nor is intentionally dropping a pop up.

[fightonusc]

I agree. And Strassy, tell your wife I said "hi".

[TempoGL]

i'm not married!  but tell your wife i said hi back!

[Stock]

So then is it also not acceptable to cover the shadow of the ball with your base runner....
or to roll the ball to 2nd base so the base stealer does not slide....

What happens when you catch a ball against the wall, but the game calls it foul?...

Or when your stupid OF throws the ball into the stands?  Are the runners only allowed a one base advance.... or when the ball clearly hooks around the fair pole, and it is ruled foul... Do you let the batter get a home run?  
If a ball is hit into the Right/Center gap, are you not allowed to push left+B to throw the guy out at 2nd (since the runner will not slide).  What if a ball is called a strike, even though the bat was checked and clearly does not go far enough around to be called a strike in "real baseball"?
What do YOU do when your opponents baserunner is unable to tag up since he already has gone to the next base?  Do you not throw him out anyway.
Are you not allowed to bunt down the 1st/3rd base line since it is an unfair advantage since the game does not allow the corners to play in?

There are countless rules in the RBI world that are different than the "real baseball" rules.   I feel that you should be able to play w/in the rules of the game to gain your own competetive advantage.  At least some players agree with me.

Side note:  I love these debates.  Isn't this awesome how we can have such great arguments about a 1980s NES game??

[fightonusc]

i'm not married! but tell your wife i said hi back!

Then did I have sex with you that night?

P.S. - I gave my wife herpes so she could pass them on to you. You're welcome...

[Ryno23]

So then is it also not acceptable to cover the shadow of the ball with your base runner....
or to roll the ball to 2nd base so the base stealer does not slide....

What happens when you catch a ball against the wall, but the game calls it foul?...

Or when your stupid OF throws the ball into the stands?  Are the runners only allowed a one base advance.... or when the ball clearly hooks around the fair pole, and it is ruled foul... Do you let the batter get a home run?  
If a ball is hit into the Right/Center gap, are you not allowed to push left+B to throw the guy out at 2nd (since the runner will not slide).  What if a ball is called a strike, even though the bat was checked and clearly does not go far enough around to be called a strike in "real baseball"?
What do YOU do when your opponents baserunner is unable to tag up since he already has gone to the next base?  Do you not throw him out anyway.
Are you not allowed to bunt down the 1st/3rd base line since it is an unfair advantage since the game does not allow the corners to play in?

There are countless rules in the RBI world that are different than the "real baseball" rules.   I feel that you should be able to play w/in the rules of the game to gain your own competetive advantage.  At least some players agree with me.

Side note:  I love these debates.  Isn't this awesome how we can have such great arguments about a 1980s NES game??

These are lumped under the "judgment call" segment of the rulebook. 

IF fly is IF fly.  If the infielder is able to catch it, then it's an IF fly.


The "staying power" of RBI never ceases to amaze me!

[BeefMaster]

My opinion: None of the items you cited makes the game less fun.  I find that not honoring the infield fly rule makes the game less fun.

[JoeDirt]

I do not find a lack of IF rule to cause less fun.  I do, however, find the thrown ball into the stands to be "less fun."

[JoeDirt]

RYNO--from this day forward, I refuse to acknowledge your precious, so-called "infield fly rule." 

[SmokedUBad13]

Hopeless issue.  I quit arguing over this years ago - http://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?topic=394.0

[BeefMaster]

I think it depends on the context of your game, too: If someone doesn't honor the IF fly rule at the COTUT, fine.  If my buddy sitting next to me does the same thing during a friendly game, I'm gonna be pissed.

[SmokedUBad13]

Friendly games?  Those haven't existed since 3rd grade for me... the cutthroat competition between my friends and I started around 4th grade.

[Ryno23]

RYNO--from this day forward, I refuse to acknowledge your precious, so-called "infield fly rule." 

That's cool.  I hit weak grounders to 2b. . . . . i rarely hit IF flies.

[JoeDirt]

point well taken.

Robert's Rules of Order, people.