Ron Santo in the Hall of Fame?

[TβG]

george arias

[ryno]

Plenty of people -- non of which have the same homerism as I --- believe Santo is a hall of famer.


Bill James is one. 

[Nacho]

Plenty of people -- non of which have the same homerism as I --- believe Santo is a hall of famer.

Bill James is one. 

Plenty of people also thought that McCain should be president.  They were outvoted.

To be honest, I could go either way.  He was a good player, and he's been really good to my family, actually (I'm sure I've told the story plenty of times), and from what my mom's husband says, he really is a super-nice guy.  That doesn't mean I think he deserves it.  I could care less whether he makes the Hall.  One of those borderline guys.

[ryno]

You are the first baseball fan that I know of that is indifferent on a subject such as this.

I think his assholiness towards the media during his playing days hurt him more than anything.

[ultimate7]

Schmidt, Brooks Robinson, George Brett, Eddie Mathews, Molitor, McGraw, Groh, Ken Boyer....Scott Rolen...

[ultimate7]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3753642&name=Neyer_Rob

Neyer's take on the 20 on the ballot

[Nacho]

After taking a look at his stats, I'd say Santo deserves to be in.  Dick Allen should get some consideration too.

[ultimate7]

Santo misses again, no one from the post 1943 ballots made it, only Joe Gordon voted in on the pre-1943 writers ballot

[ryno]

Santo gets in the year after he dies.

[BDawk]

I just looked up his numbers and I'd say they're pretty good. Borderline HOF guy

[TβG]

I just looked up his numbers and I'd say they're pretty good. Borderline HOF guy

[ultimate7]

That would be true, except his entire career spanned the era which was the biggest pitchers era ever. 

[ultimate7]

From 1964-1967, Santo averaged an OPS+ of 156.  That's 4 years where you essentially had Manny Ramirez in the lineup and a gold glove 3rd baseman.

[Attezz]

Adjusted OPS+ has him in between Carl Rick Monday and Stan Spence (or Carlos Pena and Scott Rolen if including actives.

That's not exactly HOF material.

Similar batters includes a few HOFers...but, they were catchers:

   1. Dale Murphy (875)
   2. Ken Boyer (874)
   3. Gary Gaetti (873)
   4. Yogi Berra (869) *
   5. Gary Carter (868) *
   6. Johnny Bench (868) *
   7. Ruben Sierra (865)
   8. Chili Davis (865)
   9. Carlton Fisk (863) *
  10. Bobby Bonilla (863)


If you let Santo in, it's a slippery slope, next thing you have some guy in Idaho wanting to marry an Alpaca

[Stock]

Next thing you know Kirby Puckett will get in.

[TβG]

If you let Santo in, it's a slippery slope, next thing you have some guy in Idaho wanting to marry an Alpaca

nspoleon dynamite wants to marry tina?

[Nacho]

Santo in the HOF.

[ultimate7]

Santo gets in the year after he dies.

winner, fuck the HOF

[Stock]

Santo gets in the year after he dies.

winner, fuck the HOF

That's the only reason he got in.
Fuck the HOF.

[Brookensrules!]

Indeed.  Fuck the HOF.