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Title: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: ultimate7 on 04/13/05, 01:24:12 PM
We may as well follow their progress:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=3340
-Clemens has only made 1 start, but it was a good one

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=3308
- John Franco has pitched in 3 games but gotten only 2 outs and his BAA is .600, however his ERA is still 0.00 so all is good

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=3001
-Julio is still getting it done in limited action (5 for 13)

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=3924
-Benito is the starting catcher for the Pirates and is doing OK,lets see when he takes his first walk

EDIT:
Rickey's minor league Stats Added

http://www.goldenbaseball.com/SanDiego/PlayersBio.aspx?PlayerID=280&SecID=397
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Gantry on 04/13/05, 03:27:20 PM
Clemens will be a stud until he retires... 

Franco is a crafty veteran, he doens't care about BAA - his job is to keep runs from scoring...

Julio Franco is a god, plain and simple.  He could hit .300 when he's 60...

Benito is a straight-pitch player at heart, he doesn't approve of walks...
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: ultimate7 on 04/14/05, 08:51:20 AM
Clemens pitched 7 scorless last night and John Franco retired the only batter he faced (Bringing his BAA down to .500)
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: ultimate7 on 04/15/05, 04:24:35 PM
John Franco took a loss last night, but the run was unearned so his ERA is still sitting at 0.00
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: ultimate7 on 04/16/05, 08:17:21 PM
I guess Benito is not the starting Catcher?  He hasn't played the last 3 games, anyone know if he is hurt?
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Nails on 04/16/05, 09:35:47 PM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 04/16/05, 08:17:21 PM
I guess Benito is not the starting Catcher? He hasn't played the last 3 games, anyone know if he is hurt?

I think he has the flu.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: OctoFranco on 04/16/05, 11:33:04 PM
And my namesake is now batting a cool .429
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: JoeDirt on 04/17/05, 12:25:14 PM
That's what you think--but really your namesake is John Franco, who has yet to bat this season.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: ultimate7 on 04/17/05, 06:08:06 PM
Quote from: JoeDirt on 04/17/05, 12:25:14 PM
That's what you think--but really your namesake is John Franco, who has yet to bat this season.

Told you it was Julio
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: JoeDirt on 04/17/05, 09:26:40 PM
Me and Julio down by the schoolyard?
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: OctoFranco on 04/19/05, 12:55:14 AM
Quote from: JoeDirt on 04/17/05, 12:25:14 PM
That's what you think--but really your namesake is John Franco, who has yet to bat this season.

No damn it, I already said it was the good Franco!

And two RBI'ers went head to head today.  Roger Clemens pitched three times to Julio Franco (who Bobby Cox normally doesn't start against righties, but I assume had in there because of the RBI factor), and got out him each time.  And Don Sutton was calling the game to boot.  Now if somehow we could get Santiago behind the plate...

Clemens went seven scoreless, for the record, and Julio's average drops to .316 after going 0-5 tonight. 
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Attezzobal on 04/19/05, 04:43:09 AM
No shit, I was confused as to why I didn't see sexy Laroche up at the plate, I guess Bobby knows about RBI after all...

Glad to see you were still up at 2AM, fucking scared to drink pussy (That was a genuine insult, by the way...or was it?)

Clemens is a cock, and like I said in the text I sent, it was a shitty 04 Met that cost them the game, just Wheeler and not shit bag err...Franco
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: JoeDirt on 04/19/05, 07:46:28 AM
stupid sexy laroche
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Gantry on 04/19/05, 08:53:25 AM
Bobby Cox is a student of the game, he knows his RBI...

I personally would have saved Franco for the PH bonus in the 6th or 7th, but you can't fault his strategy here...
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: ultimate7 on 04/19/05, 10:55:48 PM
Benito is on the DL with a virus
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Gantry on 04/19/05, 11:04:12 PM
And what kind of virus does Benito have?
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: ultimate7 on 04/19/05, 11:05:37 PM
AIDS?
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: BDawk on 04/20/05, 09:21:20 AM
I think he's got the Outbreak virus.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: TβG on 04/20/05, 11:11:25 AM
does anybody have any of these dudes on their fantasy team?

i have clemens, he's doing very well for me... although i can't take credit, it was autodraft.  howevefr i'm happy with his results so far.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: JerryD on 04/20/05, 12:24:49 PM
Quote from: Teddyballgame on 04/20/05, 11:11:25 AM
does anybody have any of these dudes on their fantasy team?

I've got Benito in the Dee-Nee league.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Gantry on 04/20/05, 01:47:58 PM
John Franco got a whiff in a clutch bases loaded situation yesterday, saw the highlight on TV today...
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: ultimate7 on 04/20/05, 01:49:30 PM
He again pitched 1/3 of an inning but gave up a hit and a walk, leaving his ERA at 0.00 and his BAA at .500
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: BDawk on 04/20/05, 01:52:35 PM
Quote from: Gantry on 04/20/05, 01:47:58 PM
John Franco got a whiff in a clutch bases loaded situation yesterday, saw the highlight on TV today...

Julio Franco got a whiff of ass when I farted near him
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: ultimate7 on 04/25/05, 01:34:23 PM
Another fantastic outing by Roger has his ERA down to 0.32, but still only 1 win.  Julio hitting .308 and John has his BAA down to .417
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: ultimate7 on 04/29/05, 09:51:51 AM
Clemens vs. Maddux tonight, 1st match up of 300 game winners since 1987 (or so can't remember exact date Carlton vs ??)
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Gantry on 04/29/05, 10:08:07 AM
Clemens vs. Maddux, solid!  Even I am going to have to tune into that one...
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Nacho on 04/30/05, 01:07:51 AM
Great night for pitching matchups (as we've heard over and over on ESPN)...

Maddux vs. Clemens (was pretty good)
Mulder vs. Hudson (good game, but both guys sucked)
Johnson vs. Halladay (good game as well)
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Gantry on 04/30/05, 01:59:54 AM
Clemens run support has been absolutely brutal so far...
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: JoeDirt on 05/08/05, 09:07:16 PM
Gotta be the surprise RBI move of 2005: Santiago goes from starter to being cut:

Linkage by Gantry (http://pittsburgh.pirates.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20050508&content_id=1042890&vkey=news_pit&fext=.jsp&c_id=pit)

:(
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Gantry on 05/08/05, 09:31:56 PM
Yikes...

I take it some team is going to pick him up?  Are we going to be down to three? 
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: BeeJay on 05/08/05, 09:37:52 PM
Maybe the Cardinals will pick him up.  They seem to have a facination with light hitting, Latino catchers right now, and one of them just got hurt.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: OctoFranco on 05/12/05, 05:44:37 AM
Oh, Julio!  Two more hits today.  They intentially walked to him in the 9th inning tied with two outs and a runner on second.  Needless to say this was a managerial mistake, as  Señor Franco proceeded to drive in the go-ahead run.  Granted Kolb came in to blow the lead (and then the game) in the bottom of the 9th (also needless to say), but Julio still did teach them what for.  I wonder how long it will take until the opposing defense will starts putting the Jim Thome shift on Julio Franco (that is, with three infielders on the right side of the infield).

Also, I hope we don't have to change the number in the title of this thread.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: ultimate7 on 05/12/05, 08:06:23 AM
Someone sign Benito already, I check ESPN.com twice a day hoping for a signing.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: PHole717 on 05/12/05, 10:36:07 AM
If I invent a time machine, who will go back to me to the time where ALL RBI players were in the real game?
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Wilfong on 05/12/05, 11:54:48 AM
Does anyone know the last season when all RBIers were active?

Are we all still planning to attend the last game of the last RBIer and storming the field after the game (I think I saw that in an old thread)?
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Nails on 05/12/05, 12:02:11 PM
Quote from: Wilfong on 05/12/05, 11:54:48 AM
Does anyone know the last season when all RBIers were active?

Well, I know off the top of my head that Davey Lopes retired after the '87 season, and Ellis (Tim Burks) did not play at the major league level  in '86, so it would've had to have been the '87 season if ever.  Did anyone of the '86 teams (Angels, Red Sox, Mets, Astros) retired after '86?  None come to mind...
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Wilfong on 05/12/05, 12:21:49 PM
Quote from: Nails on 05/12/05, 12:02:11 PM
Quote from: Wilfong on 05/12/05, 11:54:48 AM
Does anyone know the last season when all RBIers were active?

Well, I know off the top of my head that Davey Lopes retired after the '87 season, and Ellis (Tim Burks) did not play at the major league level  in '86, so it would've had to have been the '87 season if ever.  Did anyone of the '86 teams (Angels, Red Sox, Mets, Astros) retired after '86?  None come to mind...

Bobby Grich retired after the '86 season. I haven't checked all the players though.  A few of the Angels retired after '87.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Gantry on 05/12/05, 12:32:44 PM
So basically there was never a season in which all RBI'ers played?  Joyner was a Rookie in 1986 and Burks in 1987...
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Gantry on 05/12/05, 12:33:35 PM
Also, Potsie emailed me that Santiago refused to go down to the minors.  Will this affect his chances of signing with another team?   
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: JoeDirt on 05/12/05, 12:35:06 PM
I doubt it.  Most would probably want/need him in a back up C role...I suspect that sometime during the summer, as C injuries occur, he'll start to get offers.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Wilfong on 05/12/05, 12:55:34 PM
Gantry - if you want a list of when players retired, I could probably make one some day at the office. It's not really essential to the game, but might be interesting. From the few players I've checked, Grich was the first to leave the game.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Gantry on 05/12/05, 01:42:21 PM
If you are offering, I'll gladly take it.  Would be nice for the RBI Database/wikipedia, which will happen at some point...
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: TβG on 05/12/05, 01:58:16 PM
what are you invisioning for the RBI database?  i haven't noticed that being discussed before.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: ultimate7 on 05/12/05, 02:03:51 PM
I have a bunch of stuff in Access tables
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: OctoFranco on 05/12/05, 08:42:26 PM
Quote from: PHole717 on 05/12/05, 10:36:07 AM
If I invent a time machine, who will go back to me to the time where ALL RBI players were in the real game?

This is the problem with having been pre-school age when RBI orginally came out.  I never had the pleasure to watch many of my now-favorite stars actually play and am sadly familiar with the majority of them only through the baseball cards I ravenously collected as a boy.

It's fair to say that I'm wildly enthusiastic about the remaining RBI'ers and will route for them as long as they play.  In fact, I actually quite disliked Clemens until the active RBI'er pool waned down to just a handful of players.  Now I can't get enough of the guy.

And having a list of the retirement years of all the players would be a good reference/fun thing to look over when bored (like the RBI'er birthdays page).  Quick, without looking, can anybody tell me who the oldest and youngest RBI'ers are?

Trivia kicks ass.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Nails on 05/12/05, 09:42:23 PM
Quote from: OctogenarianFranco on 05/12/05, 08:42:26 PM
Quick, without looking, can anybody tell me who the oldest and youngest RBI'ers are?

Guess: Kevin Mitchell and Don Sutton? 
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: ultimate7 on 05/13/05, 08:09:00 AM
I didn't look though I have before.

Pretty sure Santiago was the youngest, Sutton sounds right for oldest, or maybe Lopes.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Gantry on 05/13/05, 08:41:12 AM
The RBI Database is actually already up and running, I guess it's a matter of seeing if you guys want to use it.  New post time!
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: JoeDirt on 05/19/05, 09:07:37 AM
Seattle Mariners   Updated:05/18/2005
The Mariners are interested in veteran Pat Borders, 42, who is with the Brewers' Triple-A team in Nashville, and the Milwaukee organization won't block the catcher from returning to the majors, says the Seattle Post-Intelligencer. However a report in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review says Seattle might sign Benito Santiago, recently released by the Pirates.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Gantry on 05/19/05, 09:32:44 AM
Pat Borders, jesus....  Haven't head that name in awhile....

I would definitely take Benito over Borders
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: BeefMaster on 05/19/05, 10:33:21 AM
Quote from: Gantry on 05/19/05, 09:32:44 AM
Pat Borders, jesus....  Haven't head that name in awhile....

I would definitely take Benito over Borders

Borders was the Twins' backup catcher for awhile last year after Joe Mauer got hurt.  He hit about as well as you'd expect a 41-year-old catcher to hit.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: fightonusc on 05/19/05, 11:51:24 AM
Quote from: BeefMaster on 05/19/05, 10:33:21 AM
Borders was the Twins' backup catcher for awhile last year after Joe Mauer got hurt. He hit about as well as you'd expect a 41-year-old catcher who isn't full of more steroids than the East German swim team to hit.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: OctoFranco on 05/22/05, 04:24:53 AM
Quote from: Nails on 05/12/05, 09:42:23 PM
Quote from: OctogenarianFranco on 05/12/05, 08:42:26 PM
Quick, without looking, can anybody tell me who the oldest and youngest RBI'ers are?

Guess: Kevin Mitchell and Don Sutton? 

Didn't mean to keep you stewing for a week and a half.  You're right with Sutton (who was freakin' born when WWII was still going on) and Ultimate had it with Benny.   Although I don't trust the official birth date given by any Latino player.  From the Little League world series to my boy Julio (of whom I have baseball cards with varying birth years), they tend to fib.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: ultimate7 on 05/25/05, 08:41:28 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2067797

Roger left yesterday's game with a tight groin, lucky for the Cubs
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: fightonusc on 05/25/05, 11:28:45 AM
And unlucky for Mrs. Clemens.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: JoeDirt on 05/25/05, 12:52:47 PM
Quote from: fightonusc on 05/25/05, 11:28:45 AM
And unlucky for Mrs. Clemens.

assuming it was his groin, yes.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: OctoFranco on 05/31/05, 08:49:11 PM
Oh Julio!  Breaking out of his slump with a pinch hit RBI single today, staying in the game to just homer to center a second ago in the ninth, his second of the year.  If he knocks another four bagger in a couple months, he'll be the oldest player to homer in MLB history.

Mind you I'm only listening to the game on radio, which sucks because it means I'm going to force myself to watch Sportscenter tonight to catch Julio's shot.  You'd think that a local TV station here in Maryland would have the good fucking sense to regularly broadcast our new "hometown" team, the Nats, but we are not so lucky.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Gantry on 05/31/05, 09:09:51 PM
Way to go Julio!  There was an impressive front page article on Julio in the Cleveland Plain Dealer when I was there  for Lipitz's wedding.  Brought back with me, good stuff...

He's the oldest position player in MLB history...
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Attezzobal on 05/31/05, 09:18:06 PM
The Nats are on UPN 20 a bit, probably not tonight, it's the new MASN (Mid Atlantic Sports Network) that the Orioles created to show maybe 40 O's games and about the same amount of Nats game, sadly, they haven't really gotten a set schedule.

Ron Darling is there color man though, man I loved Ron Darling when I was wee little.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: OctoFranco on 06/04/05, 09:00:56 PM
 Mr. Clutch!  Julio got the game-winning RBI double with two outs in the 9th in Atlanta's 1-0 victory over Pittsburgh.

Would you believe it was opposite field?

Also, am I the only one who wrote in Julio for the NL All-Star first baseman? (Dongsuckingness of MLB voting aside...)
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: TommyD (MrOJ) on 06/04/05, 11:27:42 PM
nope... i sure did.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: OctoFranco on 06/06/05, 11:30:53 PM
Since nobody else mentioned it, I must.

Couple days ago the Rocket gave up a season-worst 4 ER in a mere 5 innings pitched, yet got the win.  This in comparison to going eight strong giving up only 1 run, only to take a loss.

The RBI universe is again in balance.

Also, anybody read anything about Benny lately?
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: ultimate7 on 06/07/05, 08:14:51 AM
Benny still not signed, haven't heard anything
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: ultimate7 on 06/13/05, 01:56:45 PM
Julio had another SB this weekend, but this time it was the back end of a double steal.  Also, this just in, Clemens is still good.

John Franco on the other hand is struggling with a 6.0 ERA 1.89 WHIP

He has pitched in 22 games but has only 9 IP, that is barely over 1/3 inning per game.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: defen on 06/13/05, 02:09:52 PM
He must be trying to become the new Uncle Jesse
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Attezzobal on 06/13/05, 02:59:48 PM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 06/13/05, 01:56:45 PM

John Franco on the other hand is struggling with a 6.0 ERA 1.89 WHIP
.

.297 BA against, as Ron Darling said of a guy with a similar OBA during an early Nats game, you couldn't "try" to have those kinds of numbers. (In actuality, this was about a reliever where lefties were literally hitting .650 coming into his appearance against the Mets, then it went up to about .800 after his appearance was through)

EDIT: Joe Horgan, and it was against righties, http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/was/stats/
was_individual_player_splits.jsp?playerID=425820&
sitSplit1=All&statType=2&splitSet=1&statSet=1

I wish I could do cool links.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Nails on 06/13/05, 03:13:10 PM
In an article I recently read:  "The Mets have discussed Benito Santiago. But nothing appears imminent."   ...and that is all.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: OctoFranco on 06/17/05, 06:11:32 PM
Troublesome: http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/team/player.jsp?player_id=114374

John Franco pitched to three batters in his last outing, giving up two hits and a walk and being yanked before recording an out.  As you can see, his previous outings are short of impressive as well.  I fear I must ask the unspeakable thing that no one else has dared consider saying aloud...  Will Johnnie make it through the rest of the season?
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: ultimate7 on 06/17/05, 11:18:25 PM
It's likely that some contender will pick him up even if Houston cuts him (an experienced lefty out of the pen) probably Dusty's kind of guy.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: fightonusc on 06/17/05, 11:27:25 PM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 06/17/05, 11:18:25 PM
It's likely that some contender will pick him up even if Houston cuts him (an experienced lefty out of the pen) probably Dusty's kind of guy.

Wait, I thought you said "contender"?
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: fknmclane on 06/17/05, 11:53:32 PM
Wait, Franco doesn't pitch for the Mets anymore?
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: ultimate7 on 06/30/05, 01:16:40 PM
Julio has his OPS up to .797
John is still struggling
Rogers is rocking
Benito is still waiting to be called up
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Nails on 07/02/05, 11:00:31 PM
John Franco designated for assignment (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2099580)
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: ultimate7 on 07/03/05, 08:10:37 AM
Wow, down to 2 currently on MLB rosters, a new low point.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: JoeDirt on 07/03/05, 10:07:25 AM
this is very bad
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: CecilFielder on 07/03/05, 12:12:22 PM
Julio Franco article:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/baseball/mlb/07/02/bc.bbn.braves.franco.ap/index.html

Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Shooty on 07/04/05, 03:01:27 PM
"Franco's major league career spans 17 years."

That ain't right, is it?
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: JoeDirt on 07/04/05, 03:04:45 PM
No, should be 21....not including the years he took off ('95, '98, 2000).
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: JoeDirt on 07/04/05, 03:06:39 PM
interesting, though--the last time Julio had 500 or more abs was 12 years ago!
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Big Hath on 07/07/05, 01:22:31 PM
Julio with the BOMB!!!!!
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Gantry on 07/07/05, 01:25:30 PM
Booyah!  How many is that? 
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Big Hath on 07/07/05, 02:42:54 PM
that was his seventh this year

today he was 1-3 BB, HR, 2R, 3RBI
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Nacho on 07/07/05, 03:40:56 PM
Against the CUBS.  That gives him extra points in my book.

NOTE: My book is worthless.  And it is only metaphorical, anyway.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: ericdavisfan on 07/07/05, 04:03:34 PM
Nacho's book is not metaphorical.

Here it is
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: RedBarron on 07/08/05, 12:56:35 PM
all i can say is that Mark Prior was Pwned by father time.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Attezzobal on 07/08/05, 02:12:11 PM
Mark prior fucking sucks, when will everyone stop sucking his cock? I wrote to OctoFranco the night it was delayed and predicted six earned, I'm so proud of myself...

To keep on topic, what's the word on Benito? No way the Mets stick with Brian Daubach as their #1 off the bench, is there?

I hate the Mets
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: RedBarron on 07/08/05, 06:26:54 PM
i think much of the cubs problems could be their catcher.

i like barrett, but last year, Blanco had some kick ass catcher stats.  The cubs won a big majority of the games he started.

this year, the cubs are over .500 when Blanco  starts.  they  are well under .500 when barrett starts.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Big Hath on 07/08/05, 06:41:22 PM
Quote from: Ryno on 07/08/05, 06:26:54 PM
i think much of the cubs problems could be their catcher.

i like barrett, but last year, Blanco had some kick ass catcher stats. The cubs won a big majority of the games he started.

this year, the cubs are over .500 when Blanco starts. they are well under .500 when barrett starts.

If I'm not mistaken, Blanco started the game Prior pitched
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Attezzobal on 07/08/05, 06:42:18 PM
Didn't you recently start a thread lobbying Barrett to be the starting NL Catcher and making it seem like the holocaust when he inevitably didn't get it?
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: JoeDirt on 07/08/05, 08:14:12 PM
Attezz....I still owe you $50...I'm an ass for having not sent it yet---I sorry.

On a related note--thanks for the good time.  You were worth every penny.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: RedBarron on 07/09/05, 07:16:23 PM
Quote from: Attezzobal on 07/08/05, 06:42:18 PM
Didn't you recently start a thread lobbying Barrett to be the starting NL Catcher and making it seem like the holocaust when he inevitably didn't get it?

he still leads NL catchers (or is at the top) in many hitting categories.  He messed up his shoulder a while back and his average has really suffered because of it.  He's back to full strength and has been playing well the last 3 or 4 games.

Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: TβG on 07/11/05, 10:10:56 AM
i remember, one time, when this thread was about four guys who played RBI and MLB.  you know, john, julio, roger, benito... those guys.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: demystifier on 07/16/05, 04:23:44 AM
"Julio Franco is a god, plain and simple.  He could hit .300 when he's 60..."

What do you mean when he is 60?  For all we know he already is...

Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: fathedX on 07/20/05, 01:00:24 PM
John Miller said last night that when Julio hits a homer after August 15th, he will be the oldest player to homer in major league history.  The record is currently held by a pitcher that I can't remember.  This may have already been posted, but I thought everyone could use a reminder.  :)
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Attezzobal on 07/20/05, 01:51:39 PM
Quote from: fathedX on 07/20/05, 01:00:24 PM
John Miller said last night that when Julio hits a homer after August 15th, he will be the oldest player to homer in major league history. The record is currently held by a pitcher that I can't remember. This may have already been posted, but I thought everyone could use a reminder. :)

Jack Quinn...I'm a loser.

Julio also holds records 2-11. Including oldest for a grand slam.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: DamnTheCowboys on 07/20/05, 02:57:31 PM
Julio just hit a 420 foot double and then scored on a home run.

You cannot keep these RBI guys down
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: ultimate7 on 07/25/05, 09:49:54 AM
I'm adding this link to the original message since Rickey is a Arcade RBIer and since he's playing.  His OBP for the Surf Dogs is .464 and he is 14/16 SB.

http://www.goldenbaseball.com/SanDiego/PlayersBio.aspx?PlayerID=280&SecID=397
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: ultimate7 on 07/30/05, 06:39:10 PM
Julio just got his 2500th career hit
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: TempoGL on 08/02/05, 01:59:30 AM
since they were both playing for the astros this season, do you think it occurred to either John Franco or Roger Clemens that they were both in RBI together?  Do you think they may have discussed it?  Are they even aware of RBI?
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Gantry on 08/02/05, 02:01:48 AM
I doubt Clemens would know, Franco is a most likely not.  Julio Franco knows, and he's pissed about being so shitty in the game...
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: TempoGL on 08/02/05, 02:02:59 AM
Quote from: Gantry on 08/02/05, 02:01:48 AM
Julio Franco knows, and he's pissed about being so shitty in the game...

do we have official confirmation of this?
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Gantry on 08/02/05, 02:10:45 AM
It's my birthday, so yes...
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: TempoGL on 08/02/05, 02:12:56 AM
Quote from: Gantry on 08/02/05, 02:10:45 AM
It's my birthday, so yes...

* confirmed *
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: OctoFranco on 08/21/05, 11:46:56 PM
Bumping in the hopes that some news may have trickled in in the two months I've been absent.  Was devastated to hear the news about the Italian J. Franco, though to be honest not quite surprised...
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: OctoFranco on 10/17/05, 07:29:56 PM
From an article (http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051004&content_id=1237871&vkey=ps2005news&fext=.jsp) on mlb.com:

QuoteFranco's in the booth: John Franco, who was released by the Astros earlier this season, is back in baseball -- in the broadcast booth.

Franco will be working for ESPN Radio during the Astros' series with the Braves, and he hopes it will spark interest for future gigs.

"I'll give it a shot," said Franco, who officially retired following the regular season. "This is what I probably want to do in the next year or two, a little TV, a little radio."

Franco was genuinely happy to see his old teammates, most of whom he hadn't spoken with since his release in early July. He emphasized that he had no hard feelings against the Astros.

"When you don't pitch well, things like that happen," he said. "I wasn't pitching well -- too many inconsistencies. We weren't playing well at the time. They wanted to see what the younger players can do. No hard feelings. I went home, relaxed, spent time with my family."

I never heard anything about this, so I figure it will also be of interest to the Dee-Nee community...  Also for the record, both Bobby Cox and Julio Franco himself predict that Julio will be back for 2006.  Roger of course still not tipping his hand with regard to next season.  No word whatsoever with regard to Benito.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Attezzobal on 10/17/05, 07:29:58 PM
Franco's really good at reporting shit to the higher ups. So I assume that his career at ESPN (He's already on ESPN Radio) will go smoothly, Leiter's the same way (with regards to being a clubhouse snitch)
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: OctoFranco on 10/17/05, 07:31:50 PM
Quote from: Attezzobal on 10/17/05, 07:29:58 PM
Franco's really good at reporting shit to the higher ups. So I assume that his career at ESPN (He's already on ESPN Radio) will go smoothly, Leiter's the same way (with regards to being a clubhouse snitch)

Is that how the media found out that Piazza was gay and that the entire Mets roster were potheads?
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Attezzobal on 10/17/05, 07:33:27 PM
Wouldn't surprise me, although Fred Wilpon doesn't work for the media (with the exception of the back back pages of the Daily News of course).

Bobby V's reaction at a press conference when asked will always be the greatest thing ever to me "Did you see them out there!! Marijuana would just make them go slower!!" or something along those lines but better and funnier and more interesting.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: JoeDirt on 10/17/05, 10:07:51 PM
Does anybody remember a story a few years back that involved John Franco and ties to the mafia?
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: TbT on 10/17/05, 10:09:47 PM
why?  did the mafia strongarm espn a tad to get him a job?  ala the irish mob on death to smoochey.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Attezzobal on 10/17/05, 10:43:13 PM
Quote from: JoeDirt on 10/17/05, 10:07:51 PM
Does anybody remember a story a few years back that involved John Franco and ties to the mafia?

Yes.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: fknmclane on 10/17/05, 11:07:50 PM
Here you go, Joe. (http://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?topic=3823.0)
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Attezzobal on 10/17/05, 11:38:57 PM
The Bonanno family's original boss was Joe Bonanno, who was usually just referred to as Bananas, or Joe Bananas Bonanno. Anyway, it was one of the more powerful New York crime families in it's heyday (I believe around the 40's), Joe Bananas took over the Castellamarese family, eventually Lucky Luciano's family came to power as well.

I hate being born a New York Italian.

The Gambino family ruined the fun of the Mafia for my generation.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: BeeJay on 10/17/05, 11:39:42 PM
Did he have a banana phone?
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Attezzobal on 10/17/05, 11:41:56 PM
There was gonna be more, but it's boring and I hate admitting that I know it...

But yes, one of the most powerful crime bosses in the history of New York, and America, used a banana phone.

Sammy the Bull used to use a 'football shaped phone'.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: OctoFranco on 10/18/05, 01:11:57 AM
Quote from: Attezzobal on 10/17/05, 11:38:57 PMI hate being born a New York Italian.

You need to get some J. Franco-like national pride.  And not just the MN/ND part.

Also I had no idea you knew that much about the mafia.  I am going to ask you for more stories next time we hang out.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Gantry on 10/19/05, 03:18:59 PM
I'm definitely behind, but I have officially removed John Franco and Santiago from the WATN (http://dee-nee.com/rbi/wherearetheynow.shtml) and I'm pretty sure that Clemens isn't going to come back if he gets to another World Series.  Please keep on trucking Julio...
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: JoeDirt on 10/19/05, 09:10:48 PM
Quote from: fknmclane on 10/17/05, 11:07:50 PM
Here you go, Joe. (http://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?topic=3823.0)

Great find!  Thank you kind sir.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: JoeDirt on 10/19/05, 09:18:14 PM
Quote from: Attezzobal on 10/17/05, 11:38:57 PM
I hate being born a New York Italian.

While Hollywood has glamorized the Italian mafia, the fact is that there simply is nothing glamorous to murder and corruption.  I don't understand how being in the Italian mafia has become so in vogue...I suppose it's thanks to The Godfather and Tony Sapprano--but in reality, those are just shows.  It's sort of like if there was a movie that made Ted Bundy look like a hip guy and then the public saw him as cool because of the movie.  That sounds so dumb--but that is what happened with the mafia and the American public.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Attezzobal on 10/19/05, 10:04:54 PM
I'm not sure if you're arguing with me or not...But I agree with every word of your post.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: JoeDirt on 10/19/05, 10:10:38 PM
I'm not arguing with you at all.  In fact, I'm adding to why you hate beging born a NY Italian.

Add the pronounciation "Eye-Talian" to things you hate--because it is annoying.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Attezzobal on 10/19/05, 10:12:47 PM
Ahh...Very good, and agreed with the I-talian pronounciation.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: OctoFranco on 10/20/05, 12:16:35 AM
Also add people who use the pronunciation "pronouce-iation".  Fuckin' eye-ties.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: JoeDirt on 10/20/05, 06:10:20 PM
d'oh!
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: OctoFranco on 10/21/05, 01:19:59 PM
Apparently Julio Franco has a bone chip in his elbow which needs to be removed (surgically).

It does not seem to be anything serious, fortunately.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: ultimate7 on 10/21/05, 01:23:44 PM
Quote from: OctogenarianFranco on 10/21/05, 01:19:59 PM
Apparently Julio Franco is going to have his bionic arms replaced
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: OctoFranco on 01/31/06, 01:22:40 PM
Decent article (http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060130&content_id=1303848&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb) on mlb.com about Clemens' plans for '06.  The story emphasizes how said plans are still up in the air, but I think if you read between the lines it's pretty clear that he's going to return to the MLB.  He's not going to let Julio win the last-RBI'er-standing competition that easily...
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Nacho on 01/31/06, 03:45:33 PM
If and when Clemens retires, we (meaning Gantry and possibly fighton) should go balls-out in trying to get an interview with Julio.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Metal King on 02/16/06, 01:41:18 PM
There may be just 3 left.  Roger Clemens' agent said he might not pitch at all after the World Baseball Classic.  But he can't sign a deal with the 'Stros until May 1 anyway, we'll see.

John Franco should retire,  Santiago is finished,  Julio Franco is the only one still capable of putting up a solid season and playing quite a bit.  Clemens is too, but he might retire.  He's too damn good to quit yet.
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Gantry on 02/16/06, 02:07:02 PM
Though he hasn't officially retired, I don't see John Franco attempting to make it to a major league roster this year.  I count him as out of the running unless we hear something about him...
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: OctoFranco on 02/16/06, 02:14:35 PM
Quote from: Gantry on 02/16/06, 02:07:02 PM
Though he hasn't officially retired, I don't see John Franco attempting to make it to a major league roster this year.  I count him as out of the running unless we hear something about him...


Quote from: OctogenarianFranco on 10/17/05, 07:29:56 PM
From an article (http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051004&content_id=1237871&vkey=ps2005news&fext=.jsp) on mlb.com:

QuoteFranco's in the booth: John Franco, who was released by the Astros earlier this season, is back in baseball -- in the broadcast booth.

Franco will be working for ESPN Radio during the Astros' series with the Braves, and he hopes it will spark interest for future gigs.

"I'll give it a shot," said Franco, who officially retired following the regular season. "This is what I probably want to do in the next year or two, a little TV, a little radio."

Franco was genuinely happy to see his old teammates, most of whom he hadn't spoken with since his release in early July. He emphasized that he had no hard feelings against the Astros.

"When you don't pitch well, things like that happen," he said. "I wasn't pitching well -- too many inconsistencies. We weren't playing well at the time. They wanted to see what the younger players can do. No hard feelings. I went home, relaxed, spent time with my family."

In fairness though, this is the only thing I ever saw about an "official" retirement.

Attezz told me he heard mafia J. Franco doing radio for Houston during the 2005 playoffs, but most likely will not have a long term career in this department on account of the grating NYC accent.

Benito's a slim but possible chance to make a return, I think he wants to play, just needs to find a team that'll let him.  I still don't know what to make of Clemens, although I presume he'll be back if the price is right.  Regardless, Julio will doubtless eventually be the last RBI'er standing (if he's not already).
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: TβG on 02/16/06, 02:17:21 PM
so will your friend attezz be back?
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: OctoFranco on 02/16/06, 02:19:26 PM
Quote from: Teddyballgame on 02/16/06, 02:17:21 PM
so will your friend attezz be back?

I stick primarily to the RBI Board for a reason.

I wonder what is more likely to cause Roger to hang it up after the WBC, having a good showing or a bad one...
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: ultimate7 on 02/16/06, 02:25:46 PM
Quote from: OctogenarianFranco on 02/16/06, 02:14:35 PM

Attezz told me he heard mafia J. Franco doing radio for Houston during the 2005 playoffs


Yeah, in fact he did the game that had the Julio/Clemens matchup
Title: Re: Since there's only 4 left...
Post by: Gantry on 02/16/06, 02:28:05 PM
Good info Octo, never knew he retired!  In fact, I doubled checked with his Wikipedia page.  I'll have to update both pages now...

And there were two...