Blyleven for the HOF

[Gantry]

Good article by Jason Stark about why he's voting for Bertus this year...

[RedBarron]

It's a crime that he's not already in.


I have my doubts whether they'll vote anyone in this year.

An all RBI class would be cool:

Rice, Blyleven, Dawson, Trammell, Will Clark, Dale Murphy


Speaking of Will Clark, I used to think he was an easy "no" but looking at his stats, he was a lot better than I recalled.

[Attezz]

It's a crime that Jayson Stark gets a vote.

[Gantry]

An all RBI class would be cool:

Rice, Blyleven, Dawson, Trammell, Will Clark, Dale Murphy, Steve Lake

[RedBarron]

It's a crime that Jayson Stark gets a vote.

Why is that?

[Attezz]

It's a crime that Jayson Stark gets a vote.

Why is that?

Because he's a ridiculously bad writer, maybe he was a good beat writer for ten years, but nowadays, his columns are utter shit. He's the king of "I spoke to a person in the <any team's> organization, and he said" but eventually it turns out that he wasn't even close to a lead and the person he spoke to was probably a bat boy he followed around at the Boys and Girls club until he finally got an anonymous quote.

Fuck him. Writing for ESPN.com should eliminate you from all HOF qualifications.

[Stock]

Bert is one of the top 50 pitchers of all time.
Since there are way more than 50 pitchers in the hall, logic would say he gets in.

[ultimate7]

Stark's weekly(?) unusual occurences column is great.

[BDawk]

It's a crime that Jayson Stark gets a vote.

Why is that?

Because he's a ridiculously bad writer, maybe he was a good beat writer for ten years, but nowadays, his columns are utter shit. He's the king of "I spoke to a person in the <any team's> organization, and he said" but eventually it turns out that he wasn't even close to a lead and the person he spoke to was probably a bat boy he followed around at the Boys and Girls club until he finally got an anonymous quote.

Fuck him. Writing for ESPN.com should eliminate you from all HOF qualifications.

I can't believe you singled him out as a bad writer. ESPN has almost all bad writers---save for HST

[Gantry]

File under Dah Nah, I personally though Bertus was the most deserving of the bunch.  Had a decent showing, but he ain't going to get in... 

[Metal King]

Bert Blyleven's case for the HOF is even more incredible than those other guys (Gossage, Rice, Dawson, etc).  It's ridiculous for a guy with the 5th most K's ever, and 287 wins to be left out of it.  So what if he only won 20 games once.  He has alot more wins than Don Drysdale has, and he's in.

Same thing for Tommy John.  He wasn't a K specialist, but racked up 288 wins (one more than BertBly).  Jim Kaat too.

[poolstroke72]

It's a crime that he's not already in.


I have my doubts whether they'll vote anyone in this year.

An all RBI class would be cool:

Rice, Blyleven, Dawson, Trammell, Will Clark, Dale Murphy


Speaking of Will Clark, I used to think he was an easy "no" but looking at his stats, he was a lot better than I recalled.

WTF No love for Mattingly?

[RedBarron]

mattingly was the best player in the bigs for 4 or 5 years, but his back injury probably smashed any chance he had at making the hall.

I don't think Will Clark received enough votes to make next year's ballot.

Comparing the two, Clark sustained a better career for a longer period of time.  Hell, he hit .345 in his last season. . . . . he didn't fade out like some guys (like dale murphy) did.

[Stock]

WClark had a better career than Mattingly.
Neither have a chance for making the Hall.

I still remember watching the game where the Thrill smashed 4 homers against the cubs in the playoffs.  SWEET!

[ultimate7]

I still remember watching the game where the Thrill smashed 4 homers against the cubs in the playoffs.  SWEET!

Your memories are deceiving you

[Stock]

I still remember watching the game where the Thrill smashed 4 homers against the cubs in the playoffs.  SWEET!

Your memories are deceiving you

Right, I think it was only 2 (including a Grand Slam).  4 for the series, with an average over .600?

[Attezz]

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/B10040CHN1989.htm

[JoeDirt]

Comparing the two, Clark sustained a better career for a longer period of time.  Hell, he hit .345 in his last season. . . . .

Yeah, in 51 games.  Lenny Dysktra hit .420 for the first half of 1990 (or so).

[Stock]

Comparing the two, Clark sustained a better career for a longer period of time.  Hell, he hit .345 in his last season. . . . .

Yeah, in 51 games.  Lenny Dysktra hit .420 for the first half of 1990 (or so).

You're right.  He sucked his last season.

[JoeDirt]

I'm just saying, let's be real about it when we say that he hit .345 in his last season.