A call for playtesting help!

[quietude]

So, how does it play?  Should I be tweaking anyone's stats, or are they pretty close to actual performance?

[Shooty]

J.R. Richard is much worse in this version.

[quietude]

J.R. Richard is much worse in this version.

Did Billy Wagner kill your parents or something?

[Attezz]

Cory Lidle could kick Billy Wagner's ass, and I hope he does.

[Shooty]

J.R. Richard is much worse in this version.

Did Billy Wagner kill your parents or something?

Nothing against Wagner, but J.R. was awesome.  Next to Ryan, he'd be my #2 starter.  He had 4 seasons in a row leadign the team in ERA (including a couple of 300 K years) and then was on his was to a Cy Young year (with a sub 2.00 ERA)  when God remembered he hated blacks and gave him a stroke.

[quietude]

J.R. Richard is much worse in this version.

Did Billy Wagner kill your parents or something?

Nothing against Wagner, but J.R. was awesome.  Next to Ryan, he'd be my #2 starter.  He had 4 seasons in a row leadign the team in ERA (including a couple of 300 K years) and then was on his was to a Cy Young year (with a sub 2.00 ERA)  when God remembered he hated blacks and gave him a stroke.

He also had 4 seasons leading the team in walks (1975-1978.)  If I make any more changes to the Houston pitching staff, it'll be to swap Mike Scott for Larry Dierker, if I can find some info on what style of pitcher he was.  Looking at his K totals, I'm gonna say he wasn't a power-strikeout guy, but I don't know if he had a really wicked curve or if he just threw a lot of groundballs and made guys pound them into the infield.

[Attezz]

I can't believe you'd remove Scott. Scott and J.R. Richard are similar (statwise) pitchers.

If walks are your criteria for making the team, Nolan Ryan shouldn't even be allowed to play an Arcade RBI game.

And Shooty only likes Richard because his name sounds so similar to J.P. Ricciardi.

Fucking Canucks.

[RedBarron]

Don't put Cap Anson on the game.  He was a fucking douche.

[quietude]

Don't put Cap Anson on the game.  He was a fucking douche.

Recommendation, then, O Ye of the Ryne Sandberg picture?

[RedBarron]

Mark Grace was always a cub favorite and might make a decent guy off the bench.

Bill Madlock put up some good years as a Cub, as did Bill Buckner.

Seriously, Anson was a racist sonofabitch. .. . . .helluva player (for his time), though.



Sammy Sosa is probably the best pick.  He had it rough his last couple of years, but he was still bad ass.

[quietude]

Mark Grace was always a cub favorite and might make a decent guy off the bench.

Bill Madlock put up some good years as a Cub, as did Bill Buckner.

Seriously, Anson was a racist sonofabitch. .. . . .helluva player (for his time), though.



Sammy Sosa is probably the best pick.  He had it rough his last couple of years, but he was still bad ass.

Sosa and Grace are on the bench, as is Derrek Lee (which I don't remember doing, strangely.)  Anson's personal issues aside, he's the best player not already on the team.  If I did a Tigers team, Cobb would be on it, and I don't think anyone would argue he wasn't a tremendous son-of-a-bitch.

[Attezz]

Wow, please don't bash Cobb unless you know what you're talking about.

To say Anson was a racist douche isn't exactly doing it justice, Anson is almost 95% RESPONSIBLE for segregation in the Majors, remember, when Anson began there for a handful of Afro-Americans in the majors, until Anson become a star and rallied the troops and eliminated that, for half a century.

As for Cobb, not only is he (in my opinion) the greatest htiter of all time (and certainly top four no matter who you talk to), but he gets a bad rep because of his competitiveness. Tris Speaker was FAR more racist than Cobb, the one thing that Cobb and Speaker have in common is that in their later years they were HUGE proponents of integrating the big leagues, with Speaker teaching Doby (remember him??) many tricks, and Cobb helping out many, many, MANY African American players who were just beginning.

Smoky Joe Wood was also a racist and HATED Catholics, read up on the early Red Sox teams (during Wood and Speaker's time) and you'll realize how stupid that Cobb statement was.

King Kelly should be on the Boston team, afterall, he is solely responsible for having to have your manager speak to the ump about subbing you in.

"Kelly substituting!!"

And quietdude, you have no idea how much more of a prick I wanted to be during this post.

[quietude]

Wow, please don't bash Cobb unless you know what you're talking about.

To say Anson was a racist douche isn't exactly doing it justice, Anson is almost 95% RESPONSIBLE for segregation in the Majors, remember, when Anson began there for a handful of Afro-Americans in the majors, until Anson become a star and rallied the troops and eliminated that, for half a century.

As for Cobb, not only is he (in my opinion) the greatest htiter of all time (and certainly top four no matter who you talk to), but he gets a bad rep because of his competitiveness. Tris Speaker was FAR more racist than Cobb, the one thing that Cobb and Speaker have in common is that in their later years they were HUGE proponents of integrating the big leagues, with Speaker teaching Doby (remember him??) many tricks, and Cobb helping out many, many, MANY African American players who were just beginning.

Smoky Joe Wood was also a racist and HATED Catholics, read up on the early Red Sox teams (during Wood and Speaker's time) and you'll realize how stupid that Cobb statement was.

King Kelly should be on the Boston team, afterall, he is solely responsible for having to have your manager speak to the ump about subbing you in.

"Kelly substituting!!"

And quietdude, you have no idea how much more of a prick I wanted to be during this post.

Dude, I didn't say Cobb was a racist, just a son-of-a-bitch.  His temper didn't win him many friends on or off the field.

[RedBarron]

Did you keep Dave Kingman?

[quietude]

Did you keep Dave Kingman?

Kingman bopped around way too much.  He was a Cub for 3 years, a Giant for 4, an A for 3, and he was a Met for two different stretches, including in 1977, when he was a Met, Padre, Angel and Yankee.

[Attezz]

Do you have any idea of how close Cobb and Ted Williams were? How close Cobb and almost all the wealth in GA and MI were?

On the field he played hard, he didn't spike guys nearly as much as people claim, and as he was nearing his death he made amends with some folks but the majority of people he knew he irritated to no end and disfriended (word?) them.

There's a reason why Cobb was insanely wealthy, and it wasn't because people were handing him shares of Coca-a-cola and Ford so that he'd stay away from them.

He also took hats that people would throw on the field and give them to his mules.

And if you're putting Derrek Lee on there, I don't think it matters how long Dave Kingman played with the Cubs.

May as well put Piazza on the Marlins.

Isn't Derrek Lee fluent in Japanese?

[RedBarron]

DLee is there because he won the triple crown with the Cubs.


I'd keep Kingman over Anson.

[quietude]

Do you have any idea of how close Cobb and Ted Williams were? How close Cobb and almost all the wealth in GA and MI were?

On the field he played hard, he didn't spike guys nearly as much as people claim, and as he was nearing his death he made amends with some folks but the majority of people he knew he irritated to no end and disfriended (word?) them.

There's a reason why Cobb was insanely wealthy, and it wasn't because people were handing him shares of Coca-a-cola and Ford so that he'd stay away from them.

He also took hats that people would throw on the field and give them to his mules.

And if you're putting Derrek Lee on there, I don't think it matters how long Dave Kingman played with the Cubs.

May as well put Piazza on the Marlins.

Isn't Derrek Lee fluent in Japanese?

I don't recall putting Derrek Lee in there.  It's possible I loaded a ROM besides the default arcade one when I was getting started, because I was still figuring out how the editor worked.  I'm probably going to remove him in my next revision.

And seriously, I wasn't trying to start a fight over Ty Cobb.  I was just pointing out the popular opinion about him.  If it's unjustified, that's something for the historians to try and correct.

[quietude]

DLee is there because he won the triple crown with the Cubs.

No he didn't.  There hasn't been a Triple Crown in the NL since Joe Medwick in '37.

[RedBarron]

I'm telling you he won it.   He'll probably win it again this year, too. . . .  .death, taxes, and DLee winning the triple crown.



















btw, it's a dee-nee inside joke about dlee and the triple crown.  I'd find the original thread, but i'm a lazy bastard.