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Say Tengen Field had much larger dimensions...

Started by TbT, 04/15/08, 05:11:05 PM

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Would ST. Louis be better?

Yes
7 (58.3%)
No
3 (25%)
Wouldnt matter
2 (16.7%)

Total Members Voted: 12

TbT

Say the outfield fence was roughly positioned about where the middle of the cheap-seats crowd sits(distance wise from home plate).  Down the lines wouldnt require much of a long ball  obviously to go out, but the power alleys and center field would start to need quite a poke to get it out.

Teams would go yard less vs them, and Coleman, Smith, and McGee could wreak havoc on balls into the outfield gaps for a triple or 2 a game(in many cases).

Im not confiedent they would be that much better off in this scenario.  better off a little bit, but overall I think it would completely kill the potential home runs they could hit, and would be the same song and dance with them.

Houston would probably suffer even more than they do.
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TbT

Upon further review, i guess to realy beef up the power areas in tengen, you'd probably have to move the walls back all the way in dead center(to the back of the stands) and somewhat in that maner in LC/RC.

otherwise your really not making it much harder for homers to go out in center considering the stands are very narrow there.
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Attezz

I voted yes, obviously the big bombs are still home runs, but for the most part, a lot of homers would be caught in that scenario, and it would make the Cards pitchers better and like you, more triples and inside the parkers for Coleman and the like.

nomaaa

Quote from: A-Tez on 04/15/08, 07:21:23 PM
I voted yes, obviously the big bombs are still home runs, but for the most part, a lot of homers would be caught in that scenario, and it would make the Cards pitchers better and like you, more triples and inside the parkers for Coleman and the like.

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TbT

This puhl is dumb because in essence "no" and "doesnt matter" are about the damn same thing.  

i guess i was thinking no meaning it would further hinder them, and doesnt matter meaning it would be about the same.
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Stock

I think it would make no difference at all.  Many home runs are big time blasts anyway.
Others would still be hit over the outfielders heads and would just be doubles instead of home runs.  McGee may be the only guy in the STL lineup this would benefit considering he may be able to leg out a triple in a bigger playing field.
Ozzy/Coleman aren't going to hit anything over anyone's heads anyway.

Also, where would the outfielders be positioned in a bigger stadium?
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Attezz

Quote from: Stock on 04/15/08, 08:51:09 PM
Also, where would the outfielders be positioned in a bigger stadium?

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TbT

Quote from: Stock on 04/15/08, 08:51:09 PM
Ozzy/Coleman aren't going to hit anything over anyone's heads anyway.

Also, where would the outfielders be positioned in a bigger stadium?

With more room to cover, i was implying that line drives would make it through the outfield gaps to the wall. 

Id guess the outfielders would just be positioned deeper.  This could lead to more hits per game via singles.
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Stock

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Quote from: Stock on 04/15/08, 08:51:09 PM
Ozzy/Coleman aren't going to hit anything over anyone's heads anyway.

Also, where would the outfielders be positioned in a bigger stadium?

With more room to cover, i was implying that line drives would make it through the outfield gaps to the wall. 

Id guess the outfielders would just be positioned deeper.  This could lead to more hits per game via singles.

I agree with that, but I think this would help out the teams with higher "power" rankings equally as well.  In fact, it may help them more since they hit harder line drives and ground balls making it easier for them to hit the (now bigger) gaps.

There is only one way to find out. 
Nightwulf needs to get crackin' on a ROM with deeper OF dimensions.
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Gantry

I'm completely in agreement with Stock here...

Nacho

I think it would help St. Louis.  Those hard line drives won't get sluggers as many extra bases as soft ground balls through the gaps will get Coleman and Smith.  Hard liners will just get to the wall (and bounce off of it towards a fielder) faster.  Maybe Tony Armas would have a few more doubles (rather than singles) off the wall, but Coleman and Smith will get a lot more triples and homers.

Of course, I'd still rather than Boston, but the gap would be closed just a little bit.

Gantry

I just think that STL's problem is lack of power, and deeper fences don't matter when you flyout to shallow left every fkn AB.  If you move the fences back they don't hit more singles/doubles and their flyouts are still catchable.  Less runs in general but STL might gain a couple bases a game with hits that roll to the wall.  Big whoop, they still suck...

BeefMaster

I think the main way that StL would be helped is that the deeper fences would hurt the mid-range power guys that are prevalent on other teams (Laudner, Keith Hernandez, that kind of guy), making some of their borderline homers into outs.  St. Louis only has one of those guys (Lindeman, after his first at-bat), so maybe the thought is that they'd be better off in the long run.  I don't know that they would, though - with the deep fences, guys like Pendleton and McGee that occasionally sneak out a homer will be completely stripped of homer potential.
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Stock

Quote from: Nacho on 04/16/08, 11:05:14 AM
I think it would help St. Louis.  Those hard line drives won't get sluggers as many extra bases as soft ground balls through the gaps will get Coleman and Smith.  Hard liners will just get to the wall (and bounce off of it towards a fielder) faster.  Maybe Tony Armas would have a few more doubles (rather than singles) off the wall, but Coleman and Smith will get a lot more triples and homers.

Of course, I'd still rather than Boston, but the gap would be closed just a little bit.

I would agree with your point if you are talking about vs CPU play.  However, the softly hit grounders/line drives will be easier for the outfielders to cut off than a hard hit ones by a real player.
Also, if (indeed) the OF positions would be moved back to account for the larger playing area, it would also make it more difficult to throw out the slow power lefties in the game at first base.  I think Detroit would be a lot better with bigger field dimensions.
Come on Nightwulf.  Get cracking.
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