Draft Talk - Official 2009 Fantasy RBI Draft talk 5 thread

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Nacho


TβG

i'd be interested to talk about draft strategy and algorithms some time in the offseason.  especially with stat guys like ultimate, stock, shooty, and beef.  and with fighton since he ran two leagues and watched a lot of games.

the most mysterious, of course, is the pitching.
Quote from: Nacho on 03/15/16, 10:17:08 AMWe've had babe drafts. We've had a sandwich draft. We can have our babes and eat sandwiches, too.

Shooty

Quote from: TβG on 03/27/09, 01:55:36 PM
I'm curious why Shooty and Alec took McGwire #2.  Is it his infield ability? 
Out of the top seven players Big Mac ranks: Power - 5th; Speed - 5th; Contact - 2nd

Yes.  Position scarcity.  I know he's not the second best player, but he is the best infielder, no?

Attezz

Quote from: Shooty on 03/27/09, 03:56:24 PM
Quote from: TβG on 03/27/09, 01:55:36 PM
I'm curious why Shooty and Alec took McGwire #2.  Is it his infield ability? 
Out of the top seven players Big Mac ranks: Power - 5th; Speed - 5th; Contact - 2nd

Yes.  Position scarcity.  I know he's not the second best player, but he is the best infielder, no?

Other than Darryl Evan

Shooty

Quote from: Attezz on 03/27/09, 03:59:22 PM
Quote from: Shooty on 03/27/09, 03:56:24 PM
Quote from: TβG on 03/27/09, 01:55:36 PM
I'm curious why Shooty and Alec took McGwire #2.  Is it his infield ability? 
Out of the top seven players Big Mac ranks: Power - 5th; Speed - 5th; Contact - 2nd

Yes.  Position scarcity.  I know he's not the second best player, but he is the best infielder, no?

Other than Darryl Evan

I think I thought he was an OF at the time for some reason.  I know there were some position errors on the spreadsheet that went out, so Evans might have been considered an OF at the time.  I don't see why I would have picked McGwire over Evans if they were both IF eligible.

ultimate7

Quote from: BeefMaster on 03/27/09, 03:06:09 PM
I think the first one you won was the original (beating me in the Series), so I don't think there was one that predated you.


ShitPaw ran at least 1 league, see the online RBI forum possibly
Quote from: Dårky on 11/02/10, 12:04:50 AM
The Raiders are a successful organization

Shooty

Quote from: Shooty on 03/27/09, 04:02:56 PM
Quote from: Attezz on 03/27/09, 03:59:22 PM
Quote from: Shooty on 03/27/09, 03:56:24 PM
Quote from: TβG on 03/27/09, 01:55:36 PM
I'm curious why Shooty and Alec took McGwire #2.  Is it his infield ability? 
Out of the top seven players Big Mac ranks: Power - 5th; Speed - 5th; Contact - 2nd

Yes.  Position scarcity.  I know he's not the second best player, but he is the best infielder, no?

Other than Darryl Evan

I think I thought he was an OF at the time for some reason.  I know there were some position errors on the spreadsheet that went out, so Evans might have been considered an OF at the time.  I don't see why I would have picked McGwire over Evans if they were both IF eligible.

Actually, I found my old draft spreadsheet and I had Dawson #1, Canseco #2, McGwire as #3, Evans as #6 based on my calculation that weighted power, contact and speed.  Then I bumped up IFs a bit due to position scarcity.

I penalized Evans a bit for shitty speed as the CPU usually makes dumb running decisions.

TβG

if it's true that there were some errors on the fantasy draft sheet, i'd like to know who it is.  we need to make sure all this info is accurate.
Quote from: Nacho on 03/15/16, 10:17:08 AMWe've had babe drafts. We've had a sandwich draft. We can have our babes and eat sandwiches, too.

Shooty

Quote from: TβG on 03/27/09, 04:12:59 PM
if it's true that there were some errors on the fantasy draft sheet, i'd like to know who it is.  we need to make sure all this info is accurate.

Maybe there wasn't.  I recall Ryno drafting Pedro as a 1B or something.  Maybe I'm wrong.

TβG

the speed problem is somewhat of a quandry.   we would naturally assume that faster speed is always better, but slow speed isn't always a negative.  there are some cases when a slower player wouldn't be past the "point of no return" since he's slower, and thus able to retreat safely back to a base without being thrown out trying to advance.
Quote from: Nacho on 03/15/16, 10:17:08 AMWe've had babe drafts. We've had a sandwich draft. We can have our babes and eat sandwiches, too.

TβG

we've been over pedro before.  he is one of the contested players, but it has been agreed for a few years that he should be an OF.
Quote from: Nacho on 03/15/16, 10:17:08 AMWe've had babe drafts. We've had a sandwich draft. We can have our babes and eat sandwiches, too.

Darky

I have my own algorithms for position players and pitchers. It's a sound system, as I proved last year by taking Ryno's paper airplane and turning it into a space shuttle.

However, GDavis had a sound approach last year....anybody know his approach? It was cutting edge yet so primal at the same time. Hats off to him.
80's at eight

AlecTrevylan006


TβG

yeah, i think gdavis tried to pick my team from 04, that's what he did.  haha.
Quote from: Nacho on 03/15/16, 10:17:08 AMWe've had babe drafts. We've had a sandwich draft. We can have our babes and eat sandwiches, too.

AlecTrevylan006

Also, I am going off raw numbers here rather than past performances. Which is probably stupid but hey!

Darky

Quote from: AlecTrevylan006 on 03/27/09, 04:43:11 PM
Also, I am going off raw numbers here rather than past performances. Which is probably stupid but hey!

So you are a  GDavis disciple ? Interesting...
80's at eight

ultimate7

I have poured over the stats as much as anyone.  As long as none of us draft like complete idiots (Attez), all teams will be so close in offensive value that it's basically a wash.   Pitchers and the pitching Unknowns are the big intangible.  In my opinion these leagues are fun, but obviously come down to 95% luck.
Quote from: Dårky on 11/02/10, 12:04:50 AM
The Raiders are a successful organization

Darky

Quote from: ultimate7 on 03/27/09, 05:28:50 PM
I have poured over the stats as much as anyone.  As long as none of us draft like complete idiots (Attez), all teams will be so close in offensive value that it's basically a wash.   Pitchers and the pitching Unknowns are the big intangible.  In my opinion these leagues are fun, but obviously come down to 95% luck.

I like to call it "reducing the odds". I'd say 70-80 percent luck. It's more mental and technical than you think. Thoughts are powerful, as is the Force. Controlling or shifting the Force is an inherent skill.



80's at eight

Darky

Interesting consecutive picks coming up for the Sally Cunts...
80's at eight

ryno