Interesting finds on batting...

[ultimate7]

Now can you see what happens to the error ratio when you press a button just before fielding?

[thalivest]

Beef I wanted to get the player breakdowns from other games (so far PMeth gave a spreadsheet for RBI 3 and the division winners 83-89). He also told me how to use translhexion and get a "thingy table" which should enable me to get info for other games (mostly 8 & 16 bit). The problem is I have no idea how to read or decipher them.

Maybe Turd or nightwulf could let me now, other than that I can open them as Microsoft Word Documents and there's just a lot of shit and I don't know what any of it actually means.

[Turd]

Hit me up on IM or something. I might be able to help depending on the data.

[thalivest]

I don't have/do IM. It was something that PMeth was guiding me through (via email), and I was just fucking around with it. And seeing how you and Beef were discussing contact ratio for non-power hitters it's something I wanted to look into and draw references from other games from that era, and how they rate contact.

He (PMeth) told me to download Translhexion, load a ROM, thne do a "search relative". Type in a players name, then click on "thingy table". All that worked but when I save it and open I could see it was there as it would list the game tile and some other reckognizable things, but after that, like I said, it was a lot I couldn't decipher. I saved them to my hard drive and can find them, or do that search for most games. Reading, understanding and decipering it is another story.

Nightwulf and yourself seem (are) mre versed in this than myself so I'd thought I'd mention and see if you could help.

[Turd]

I don't know what a "thingy table" is...I wonder if that means "string table?" If so, it's a list of pointers that the game uses to find text within one long string of text...

[Turd]

Nevermind, I now know what a thingy table is.  Basically it just maps a character to a hex value.  RBI uses this for all its letters...

Tecmo Super Bowl, for instance, uses ascii for storing text, meaning that if you want it to say Aaron Rodgers you'd literally convert the ascii string to binary and write that to the ROM. 

In RBI, the letter A is x10, B, is x11, etc...

I learn something new every day.

[Gantry]

I have a breakdown of a bunch of the usable letters to codes somewhere on my site, but no idea where.

[Reds]

Have you checked inside your asshole?

[Gantry]

Twice...

[Turd]

I have them all as well.  None of them were retrieved from the inside of Gantry's funbox.

[thalivest]

Nevermind, I now know what a thingy table is.  Basically it just maps a character to a hex value.  RBI uses this for all its letters...

Tecmo Super Bowl, for instance, uses ascii for storing text, meaning that if you want it to say Aaron Rodgers you'd literally convert the ascii string to binary and write that to the ROM. 

In RBI, the letter A is x10, B, is x11, etc...

I learn something new every day.

ascii... what?? You gonna have dumb that down for me. So if A is x10 and B is x11 my assumption is that C is x12 , D is x13 and so on, would I have to go through it like that as that seems like an awful lot ofr work/time. And you'd have to factor my binary knowledge (which is very limited to begin with) stmes from a computer/programming class I took years ago, and can remember very little. Not that I paid much attention during the class.

Though I'm not necissarily looking to write it to a ROM, just basically player ratings/breakdowns are what I'd like to have from diffeent games (8 and 16 bit) and see if I can draw parrallel's between them. Gantry/nightwulf had the original RBI, and PMeth sent me a breakdown of RBI 3 so I could comapre, now I would just like as many as I can get to compare.

Or at least know how to decipher them so I won't have to bother people all the time.

I have a breakdown of a bunch of the usable letters to codes somewhere on my site, but no idea where.

Would you be willing to look on my behalf?

I have them all as well.  None of them were retrieved from the inside of Gantry's funbox.

Is there anyway I can get a look?

[Turd]

At gantrys fun box? You'd have to ask him. Buy him some boxed wine.

As for thingy table, I'll look it up. I bet all three use similar style thingy tables.

[thalivest]

Thanks, B, appreciate it.

So Gantry, what do you say? Some cheap wine and I get a gander at that asshole?

[Gantry]

Nothing in a box or jug, I'm a classy dame...

[Turd]

0-9 = x00-x09
A-Z = x0A-x23
a-z = x28-x41
SPACE = x24
. = x25
' = x27

[thalivest]

That helps for RBI 1.  Thanks.

[thalivest]

I just ran a quick search for different games (WSB 98 Genesis, same as WSB 95) and RBI 94 (want to know the ratings for pitchers stamina, starters seem to go deeper, 7th and 8th, than any other version), ran a few names, and values seem to correspond with the values associated. Figured out the letters (capitals & lower case), the #'s, period, space 1 or 2 others manually, but not much else.

I haven't been able to find stats (Avg, HR etc or ratings Pwr, Spd etc.), just the basics, names & #'s, so any help on locating/finding those would be appreciated.

Wanna try Sports Talk Baseball (Genesis) to see how they rate contact (and stamina) as well.

[Turd]

Right, but I'm sure they translate to the other games...I doubt they changed the thingy table much...

[thalivest]

I can pretty much find what represents what, for eg WSB 95/98 (Genesis) would be....

A = 41     a = 61
B = 42     b = 62
.....          .....
Z = 5A     z = 7A


0 = 30
1 = 31
......
9 = 39

and.....

( = 28
) = 29
. = 2E
SPACE = 20


RBI '94 is almost exactly the same. Now the Thingy Table has a bunch of different characters, do I have to go through each charachter (42, 74, 6A for eg), one by one to decipher it or is there a quicker way? And please tell me there's a quicker way.

[Turd]

I don't know of a quicker way.   You'll have to find someone smarter than me to figure that one out...shouldn't be too tough