Fantasy RBI 2017 Discussion Thread

[Darky]

Nacho, thoughts on today's game between the Pinkmen and The Empire? We need some theatre here.

And that is really strange that one of the game's best HR hitters only has 1HR through 4 games. Bell's good contact (14) and quality power (936) pretty much means he'll hit off anyone and should drop bombs at a better rate. Weird and blame the random generator not in your favor. So I guess he'll hit 4 bombs off the Empire today.

Using darky logic they aren't hitting home runs because they don't like where you are batting them in the order.

Do you have a better explanation?!?!?

Some players seem to thrive better in different hitting slots than others. Some like their natural hitting slot that they hit in from the original NES ROM, and others don't. Then I have some out there theory that somehow a team's slot in the ROM has a small impact on team hitting and pitching. For instance, Nacho's team is in the Minnesota slot on the ROM, my team is in the St. Louis slot and so on. American and National's slot is still in place, and I'd bet if Fighton moved a team into one of those slots, that team's hitting would go up a bit. You may not find it in the code, but each ROM's artificial intelligence spontaneously manifests its own awareness! 

In all seriousness, looking at historical stats of how hitters hit from their hitting position in the lineup and the ROM's slot, there is an impact for some of the players. I can't move Pena out of the 8-hole because the ROM likes him better in that slot and Whitkr seems to thrive better in the 7-hole slot with Garner in front of him in the 6th slot from the sim games I ran. Then player combos within the lineup construction is critical. In our program, we want a certain flow with the hitting akin to how musical notes are put together, so we look to design our lineup where players compliment each other according to contact, speed, and power. We want basehits with guys taking extra bases in rallies, then we want a homerun every here and there to start up a new dance in the rally! See the 7th inning when we had that 13-run rally against GDavis - it was a symphony!

[Nacho]

Nacho, thoughts on today's game between the Pinkmen and The Empire? We need some theatre here.

This is a pivotal game for both teams. If the Pinkmen win, it'll obviously place us in great position to make the playoffs and make a run. It'll also deliver a major psychological blow, especially if Burks and DeCinces perform well. On the other hand, if the Empire win, it would show some resilience to a much-maligned team.

I look for Bell to break out of his HR slump. I think it'll be a slugfest, and look for the Pinkmen to flirt with the knockout via the mercy rule in the early innings.

[Darky]

btw Nacho, I was going to bring in a different arm to start the game against the Pinkmen. I put the ROM on a much more accelerated speed, let 4 innings play, then recorded the pitching stats. I ran sim games with J.Morris and two other pitchers.

The pitcher I was going to bring in as a hired gun has significantly better numbers than J.Moris and the other guy, but our hitters hit better behind Morris and Morris when he was on, was much more dominant than the hired gun I wanted to bring in. However, over a span of a few games I ran, he had some really shaky starts.

Anyways, I saw a 333 after a sim game I ran with Morris pitching and dominating, and that sign meant for me to start Morris. We'll see if 333 was on point!    Be nervous kiddo! Actually, I'm nervous since I've seen the destruction you guys can do to Morris. Big chance I'm taken here since Spock's logic told me to bring in the other guy against you. He'll be used against the EZ Listeners since we've already finished up our scouting against them. So yeah, I've been investing some time into this and it's damn fun! I found that Garner and Whitkr hit better in the spots I put them in the order, so that's how that change came about - Knight was totally outperformed by Garner in the scouting games I ran. So we'll see if Garner has a productive game against Cox.

If we fall behind after two innings, we have basically no chance of winning. It's just how the ROM plays it out with our specific matchups. Morris is shit when our team is behind, but if he has a lead to work with, then he pitches better for whatever reason.

Good luck today, Nacho. You and Shooty have good teams with the best records right now and maybe you two are eyeballing each other, but The Empire will have something to say about that. Never, ever, count out the Empire - Fantasy RBI juggernaut and ALWAYS RESILIENT., as we proved last game against GDavis with our backs to the wall 

[Reds]

While discussing trades with other managers, I may have just found out the a high contact rating is a bad thing. 

lol. 

[Reds]

This probably would have affected my drafting. 

[Reds]

The Seymour Chili's are pleased to announce a trade  :

Jack Clark, Dale Murphy, and Dwight Evans have been traded to Team Canada for Mark McGwire, Dave Henderson, and Jim Lindeman. 

The Chili's wish all the best to Jack, Dale, and Dewey in their future endeavors and welcome the new players to the team. 

[Shooty]

I will miss McGwire, who is deserved of a #1 overall pic, but power is now spread ut better throughout my lineup.

New order will be:

DwEvans 891
Brunansky 906
Murphy 909
Schmidt 891
Clark 891
Schofield 861
Nokes 852
Herr 771

[Nacho]

Jesus Christ. Shooty will dominate this league simply by fleecing other owners who are idiots.

[Reds]

Contact/power ratings in the trade were almost completely even.  Dummy. 

[Shooty]

I would also like to point out that every trade that I have made has been proposed by the other owner.

[Darky]

McGwir 942
Clark 891
+51 for Reds

Lndmn 861
DwEvans 891
+ 30 for Shooty

Hndrsn 879
Murphy 909
+ 30 for Shooty

Shooty comes out ahead only 9 points on power, but he picked up 42 power points in his lineup since Lindmn is a bench player and Shooty only lost 2 starters.

Accounting for how contact is computed with power:

Batting Power - (Contact * x)
where x is 0 to 6 depending on where contact occurs

So take a 900 power hitter with 10 contact. If you make the worst contact the multiplier is 6, and the new power number is 900-(10*6) or 840.

Using this formula at the worst possible contact of 6, this is how it looks:

McGwir (18*6=108) 942-108 = 834
Clark (20*6=120) 891-120 = 771
+63 Reds

Lndmn  (38*6=228) 861-228 = 633
DwEvans (27*6=162) 891-162= 729
+96 Shooty

Hndrsn (26*6=156) 879-156 = 723
Murphy (17*6=102) 909-102 = 807
+84 Shooty

Shooty comes out ahead 117 power points.

The trade would not be at risk for a void if Hndrk and not Lndmn was shipped to the Chili's.

Fighton will need to rule on this trade and I call on him for an official ruling. The trade is too lopsided because of Lindmn going to the Chili's and not Hndrk. Reds caught the virus that was in my body the other week 

[Reds]

I made the fucking deal. There's no ruling to be made. I made it. It sticks.

[Nacho]

No, but Reds is somehow under the impression that contact is bad, because reasons.

[Nacho]

I made the fucking deal. There's no ruling to be made. I made it. It sticks.

There is a commissioner that can allow it or not.

I'm guessing he allows it.

[Reds]

He has no reason not to. The numbers are practically even. Just because Lindeman was on shooty's bench doesn't mean that it was unfair. If you want to piss and whine about it, then why weren't you making an offer for Murphy and Evans?

[Shooty]

The trade would not be at risk for a void if Hndrk and not Lndmn was shipped to the Chili's.

Srsly?  Hendrik is 20 CNT 849 PWR.  Lindeman is 38 CNT 861 PWR.  At that point it comes down to personal preference.  Hendrick is now on my bench so I don't care but whatever. 

Essentially power and speed are both very similar for both teams.  I get the advantage in contact (which is the least important of the 3 attributes, imo). 

Regardless, isn't it all about lineup compositions, symphonies, 333, twitches, lunar phases, etc?  Why is anyone even looking at number ratings?
   

[Darky]

You two trade away, it really is fine with me. However, for Reds to say the numbers were even was incorrect as I illustrated in my last post. The contact-power interaction was also explained here by Nightwulf and Turd: https://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?topic=2752.40

Hndrk is on your bench now Shooty because he is replaced by DwEvans since you shipped Lndmn. By computing the contact-power numbers as explained by Nightwulf and Turd, it's a big difference. A contact of 38 is light years from a contact of 20 since it dramatically affects the power when you start multiplying contact from 1 to 6 then subtract that from power.

Just saying man! Again, I'm cool with the trade because you never know how it'll work it. You lost a HUGE stick with McGwir, and who knows if Dewey and Murphy make up the difference with the off years they are having so far. And who knows if the lineups work together. So again I say I am cool with this and I won't say another word about it. I'll just gladly be that more jubilant when the Empire takes down the Shooties and the Chili's again since it'll be SO MUCH more sweet haha! The trades will put extra pressure on the Shooties and the Chili's, and who knows if you two can handle that kind of heat! All good gentlemen, I have nothing against this trade, was just pointing out the numbers with what the code says.

[nomaaa]

how many games in the season? how many teams make the playoffs?

[fightonusc]

As I asked before: RUN THE FUCKING TRADE BY ME FIRST before you post it. Then I can either approve it or raise concerns privately, we can hash it out, and then go from there.

[fightonusc]

how many games in the season? how many teams make the playoffs?

14 games. Top 6 make 'yoffs.