History of RBI

[nightwulf]

No NES game had real players but the RBI series?  

Only thing I can think of off the top of my head is Legends of the Diamond.

Nightwulf

[TecmoGuy]

Major League Baseball the Game was after RBI.

[Gantry]

Actually, according to GameFAQs, Major League Baseball came out in April of 1988, while RBI didn't get released until after the summer of 1988.  Check out the Wikipedia article for more info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBI_Baseball

[Gantry]

For other NES baseball games, here's a lazy cut-n-past from similar games to MLB on allgame.com:

Bad News Baseball, Baseball Simulator 1.000, Baseball Stars II, Baseball Stars Professional, Baseball Stars, Bases Loaded II: Second Season, Bases Loaded for Game Boy, Bases Loaded, Bo Jackson Baseball, Little League Baseball Championship Series, R.B.I. Baseball 2, R.B.I. Baseball 3, R.B.I. Baseball, Ryne Sandberg Plays Bases Loaded 3, Tecmo Baseball

[ultimate7]

Ryne Sandberg Plays Bases Loaded 3

What?  Is this the full name of the game or is this 2 seperate games?  Is Ryne Sandberg Plays a game?

[Gantry]

I was thinking the same thing, Booyah!

http://www.allgame.com/cg/agg.dll?p=agg&SQL=GIH||||13807

Edit - And seriously, why does allgame use the pipe symbol in their URL names?  Really fucking dumb...

[ultimate7]

Wow, I had no idea

"Instead of the long season found in previous Bases Loaded games, Bases Loaded 3 has a unique system. Based on your quality of play, you are ranked on a scale of one to five. Your ultimate goal is to be good enough to defeat a level five team. To do that, you'll have to play at the same level as Ryne Sandberg. No one said this was going to be easy."

Has anyone here played this game?  Is it any good?  I kind of like the bases loaded series, the hittting was tough to get used to, but beaning the batter and charging the mound was pretty cool.

[Gantry]

vimm.net has it, though no direct links are allowed.  Go to The Vault, NES, "B" and you'll find it

[openwindow]

I seem to recall Roger Clemens Baseball being released on the NES, but I only played it on the SNES, so I'm not sure, and I don't recall whether it had real players.

RCB did not have real players on any platform, except for Clemens himself. Since it didn't have the MLB license either, it didn't have real teams either.

Long time lurker, first time poster. love the site.

[Gantry]

Welcome openwindow!  I love it when a lurker comes out of the shadows...  

Good to know about Roger Clemens, so the only two NES games with MLBPA licenses are RBI & Legends of the Diamonds?  Did Legends have any active players?  If not, I wonder if it is a different license...

[nightwulf]

It's been a long time since I played it, but if I remember correctly, all the players were long since retired. I'm not sure what licensing they had to do, if any.

Nightwulf

[Gantry]

You figured they would have used some new players if they could.  Doesn't MLB have a Veterans Association?  Perhaps they needed licensing from them..

[fightonusc]

Well, I would think that players who retired before the MLBPA came to being in 1966 wouldn't be covered by any sort of licensing agreement. Just a guess, though.

[TβG]

i'm not sure if you'd need licensing if the person was dead.  also laws may have changed since the 80's that protect veterans' rights.  and maybe those legends would fall under some sort of fair use for famous personalites, somewhat like using george washington's likeness-- you wouldnt have to get licensing for him.  now claudell or U.L. are a different story.  i'm no legal eagle but those ideas are just off the top of my head.

[Gantry]

Well, Legends of the Diamonds has Ernie Banks who is both alive and played after 1966.  He has to have some sort of control over his likeness, if I had to guess.  But IANAL (I am not a lawyer)

[fightonusc]

Legends of the Diamond only had 24 players to choose from in the whole game, and some of them pushed the boundaries of being "legends" (Bobby Richardson?). I suspect that they reached deals with individual players or their estates, especially since the game doesn't list any specific license (at least, not in the opening screen).

[ultimate7]

Bobby must have been 1 hell of a 2nd basemen because he was a 7 time all-star despite hitting over .270 only twice and never hitting more than 8 HRs.  Somehow he finished 2nd in MVP voting in 1962 when he had his best year hitting .302 with 8 HRs

[TβG]

east coast bias, plus he was a yankee.  need i say more?

[Mike D.]

Legends of the Diamond was awesome.  They used to have umpire confrontations "I was safe by a mile!" "Yerrr out!" "Safe!" "Out!".

Also, there was a little known glitch that if you beaned something like 10 in a row, the guy would charge the mound and swear, but I think it was something like "Aw, what the hell!"

[TempoGL]

Legends of the Diamond was awesome.  They used to have umpire confrontations "I was safe by a mile!" "Yerrr out!" "Safe!" "Out!".

Also, there was a little known glitch that if you beaned something like 10 in a row, the guy would charge the mound and swear, but I think it was something like "Aw, what the hell!"

That was Bo Jackson baseball...unless Legends of the Diamond used the same voices.