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Last Week:

Gantry Division:

GDavis 24, The Empire 23

Doverbi Division:

The Poopydicks 27, The CommieHitlers 15 (8)

Interdivision:

The Frank Tanana All-Stars 15, The OC 14
Attarack 13, The Nimrods 10
The Coprophiliacs 12, The Hip Young Popes 8

Standings:

Gantry Division:

t1. GDavis, 3-2 (-2)
t1. The Empire, 3-2 (+19)
t3. The OC, 2-3 (+15)
t3. The Coprophiliacs, 2-3 (-15)
5. The Nimrods, 1-4 (-24)

Doverbi Division:

1. The Poopydicks, 5-0 (+60)
2. Attarack, 3-2 (-5)
t3. Hip Young Popes, 2-3 (-6)
t3. The CommieHitlers, 2-3 (-15)
t3. The Frank Tanana All-Stars, 2-3 (-27)

This Week:

Gantry Division:

The Coprophiliacs @ The OC

Doverbi Division:

Hip Young Popes @ The CommieHitlers

Interdivision:

The Frank Tanana All-Stars @ The Nimrods
The Poopydicks @ The Empire
Attarack @ GDavis

This week's ROM is attached along with the rosters and line-ups. Please review to make sure your line-up is correct...

1. The POOPYDICKS!, 5-0 (+60!!!!)

League Leaders:

BA

1. Downing (Pd), .813
2. Dawson (Pd), .778
t3. E. Davis (U7), .739 and K. Hernandez (Co), .778
5. Wilfong (Pd), .692
6. Armas (Gd), .682
t7. Leonard (Hp) and Kruk (Ch), .667
9. C. Davis (Ftas), .650
10. Mattingly (Em), .643

HR

t1. Dawson (Pd), E. Davis (U7) and Mattingly (Em), 7
t4. Canseco (Ch) and Murphy (Em), 6
t6. Armas (Gd), Brunansky (Oc), Guerrero (Em), Hendrick (U7) and K. Hernandez (Co), 5

RBI
1. Dawson (Pd), 17
t2. Armas (Gd) and Murphy (Em), 16
t4. Maldonado (Ftas) and Mattingly (Em), 15
t6. Canseco (Ch) and E. Davis (U7), 14
8. K. Hernandez (Co), 13
9. Jones (Pd), 12
t10. Boggs (Em), Brunansky (Oc), Downing (Pd), Guerrero (Em), Henderson (Co), Jackson (Oc) and Leoard (Hyp), 11

R

1. Mattingly (Em), 15
2. Dawson (Pd), 14
t3. Brunansky (Oc) and Sheridan (Oc), 13
t5. Guerrero (Em), Mitchell (Pd) and Wilfong (Pd), 12
t8. Bell (Gd), Boggs (Em), Burks (Ch), W. Clark (Oc), E. Davis (U7), Downing (Pd), Da. Evans (Co) and Murphy (Em), 11

SLG

1. Dawson (Pd), 2.333
2. Downing (Pd)., 1.938
3. E. Davis (U7), 1.870
4. Armas (Gd), 1.682
5. Raines (At), 1.556
6. Mattingly (Em), 1.536
7. K. Hernandez (Co), 1.522
t8. Jones (Pd) and Wilfong (Pd), 1.500
10. Maldonado (Ftas), 1.474

OPS

1. Dawson (Pd), 3.111
2. Downing (Pd), 2.750
3. E. Davis (U7), 2.609
4. Armas (Gd), 2.364
5. K. Hernandez (Co), 2.261
6. Wilfong (Pd), 2.184   
7. Mattingly (Em), 2.156
8. Raines (At), 2.135
9. Jones (Pd), 2.111 
10. Maldonado (Ftas), 2.074

AB/HR (Min. 15 AB):

1. Dawson (Pd), 2.57
2. E. Davis (U7), 3.29
3. Canseco (Ch), 3.83
t4. Downing (Pd) and Mattingly (Em), 4.00
6. Armas (Gd), 4.40
7. Jones (Pd), 4.50
t8. Hendrick (U7) and K. Hernandez (Co), 4.60
10. Maldonado (Ftas), 4.75

Keith hernandez is quietly having a huge season...

I didn't realize Downing was such a fucking beast.  WOW.

Downing and Dawson have to be 1-2 for the MVP balloting. Eric Davis is like DLee 2005 - putting up great numbers on a shitty team.

sorry to end the streak, poopshoot pirates.

For some reason I don't think Downing is going to maintain this pace all year...

I am taking a wild guess here that there will be no games this weekend. >:(

DS:ding dong

Cristopher Cross: Yes?

DS: Can manfreddy play today?

Cristopher Cross: I am sorry, he is terribly busy.

DS: Tomorrow?

Cristopher Cross: Go sailing and find tranquility....... slams door.

DS:  :'(

Quote from: The Dark Side on 02/12/07, 05:21:34 PM
DS:ding dong

Cristopher Cross: Yes?

DS: Can manfreddy play today?

Cristopher Cross: I am sorry, he is terribly busy.

DS: Tomorrow?

Cristopher Cross: Go sailing and find tranquility....... slams door.

DS:  :'(

One more whiny post and I'm giving the team to nomaa. Seriously.

Fkn Raines.  He is the only player on AttaRack to make the list.  I wanted our team to be like the NE Pats.  No stars, just good teamwork and being able to play well together. 

Are we gonna play some ball this week or what?

Sorry, we were on break since this weekend mourning the loss of my soul.

The Coprophiliacs @ The OC game is complete and attached below.

fkn pat sheridan....

slow game....whats up with Darrell Evans lack of fkn power??

the oc is looking to trade.  make us an offer we can't refuse.

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DEE-NEE CITY - Don Sutton gave up one earned run in three innings of relief to pick up the win as The Coprophiliacs held off the slumping OC 11-9 in a Fantasy RBI League game played Wednesday afternoon at Tengen Stadium.

The OC (2-4) scored three runs in the bottom of the ninth to make the game close, and Tom Brunansky's two-out double brought Will Clark to the plate with to win the game. But Doug Corbett was able to induce Clark to fly out to end the game and preserve the victory for The Coprophiliacs (3-3).

"We've got Reggie Jackson, Tom Brunansky, Will Clark and Matt Nokes, and we can't break double digits in runs," said OC manager TBG after the game. "These players might have quit on the season, but I sure as hell haven't. If anyone on this roster thinks they are safe, they have another thing coming."

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I think the league needs to contract the OC

Quote from: BDawk on 02/15/07, 12:12:55 PM
I think the league needs to contract the OC

goonies the oc never say die!

The Empire @ The Poopydicks game is now complete. Game video is attached.

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suck on my titties poopydicks!!!
10 run rule?! meatheads!

you know why the POOPYDICKS!!! have nothing to say?

because there is nothing to say.

DEE-NEE CITY - The Empire used a 12-run seventh inning to send The Poopydicks to their first defeat of the season, a 22-12 defeat in a game played Friday afternoon at Tengen Stadium.

The Empire (4-2) rocked Poopydicks reliever Rick Reuschel for six home runs in the decisive seventh inning, with Don Mattingly homering twice in the inning. After the game, Poopydicks co-owner Mark McLane was not pleased.

"God damnit!," McLane said, "Reuschel is such a fucking cunt. Fucking that fucking whore right in his fucking ass! Is he fucking retarded?"

The game had the look of a pitcher's duel early, with The Poopydicks (5-1) clinging to a 1-0 lead in the middle of the fourth inning. But The Empire was able to touch up Doyle Alexander for five runs in the fourth inning to take a 5-1 lead. The lead see-sawed from there, with The Poopydicks taking a 10-7 lead in the seventh inning before The Empire's explosion.

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See my previous posts about my worries about our rusty relief core, the Poopydicks are definitely vulnerable when the franchise Alexander leaves the game.  Hopefully Big Daddy can learn from this...

And it looks like Brian Downing (0-5) finally came back to earth...

Piss poor game all the way around, but better this happens now and the team tastes a bitter loss before the playoffs.

The Empire can suck my hairy balls.

                                                        Post Game Press Conference


(breath, breath) Today in front of our loyal fans we showed the league what we are capable of when we play smart and heads up ball. The ability to destroy the Poopydicks is insignificant next to the power of the Force.
The Empire made significant strides since our narrow defeat last game. We used our practice time wisely, we worked on our weaknesses, polished up our strengths, and we are slowly but surely learning the different ways of the Force and the power of the Dark Side. We still have ways to go to play at the level that I demand, but I sense this is only the beginning stage of our ascent to greatness as a dynastic champion.


Q: Lord Darkside, can you describe the general mood of the Empire before the showdown with the undefeated Poopydicks. Were you guys intimidated to face one of the most explosive offenses in RBI Fantasy history?

A: (breath, breath) We practiced extremely hard all week, we studied the basic tendencies of the Poopydicks habits, and installed a game plan that we executed nearly to perfection. We were very confident that we would win against a very good Poopydicks team. And we are very confident that we can continue to win every game if we play our game and allow the Force come to us so we can in turn control it.

Q: Can you give us a little insight to your strategy to stopping the explosive Poopydicks offense?

A: (breath, breath) First and foremost, we wanted to pitch backwards to a very aggressive Poopydick lineup. We mixed speeds very well and our pitchers had control of their lineup by getting ahead in the count. We held their spark plugs Wilfong, Dawson, and Downing to a combined 3-15. We also were determined to shut down the nine hole. Their nine hole spot went 0-4. We knew that we were not going to completely shut down Andre Dawson, but holding him to a 2-5 performance with only 2 rbi is an accomplishment. We strongly felt that if we can throw some junk on first pitches that they would chase our pitches. 


Q: What was the turning point of the game?

A:  Pedro Guerrero made a diving catch in the top 4th to save a couple of runs. We then scored 5 runs in the bottom half of the 4th, but it was evident that the Force was on our side. After last week's horrible performance in right filed, Pedro Guerrero worked his tail off in practice all week and made significant improvements defensively. He was told before the game that any errors on his part would result in death.

Q: Was the Empire irritated at all by all the trash talking by Mclane and Gantry?

A: No. The Dark Side of the Force comes from the hate, anger, fear, aggression, vengeance, and malice in all living things. So we hate all Fantasy teams and by nature we are irritated by any opposing team.

Q: Lenny Dykstra has gone 9-13 since replacing Jim Lindeman in centerfield and has seemed to be the spark plug, what prompted you to make the immediate change when you took over?

A: I sensed the Force was very strong in him. You don't know the power of the Dark Side.

Q: What is your response to how the media has crowned you as the team to beat despite your totalitarian style of management which has the players on edge a bit?

A: (Breath, breath.) Things are going perfectly according to our plans. Our goal is to execute perfectly on every pitch. Win every inning, win every game. If we can master the Force and play Empire style baseball, then we feel that our chances our good. I find your faith amusing.
I am strong with the Force. I am trained in the ways of the Force, and the Empire will display how the game is played with perseverance and discipline, or they choose death.  Nobody is safe here.
No further questions. May the Force bless our Empire

Pedro's catch on Brenly's 4th inning flyball in foul territory may be the best defensive play that I've seen in a watch game.

The Hip Young Popes @ The CommieHitlers game is complete, game video is attached.

Mike Witt has been most solid all year.  I'm glad I set him as my #1.  Cy Young?

DEE-NEE CITY - New CommieHitlers starter Mike Witt gave up two runs over four innings of work to lead his team to a 12-2 victory over The Hip Young Popes in a Fantasy RBI League game on Thursday night that was stopped after four innings due to the mercy rule.

Dwight Evans and Alan Trammell each homered for The CommieHitlers (3-3) to pace a reconstructed line-up. Jose Canseco also went 2 for 3 while driving in three.

Dick Schofield's home run was the lone offensive spark for The Hip Young Popes (2-4).

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That was a pretty weak recap.  I suspect a bit of bias on the part of the RBI media.

I suspect that the game was so boring that there really wasn't much to say.

I saw the Commie/Popes game.

The Hip Young Popes came out really flat. Mike Witt had his knuckle working and struck out some good hitters. The CommieHitlers did not exactly pound the ball. It was kind of boring watching a bunch of sally hits with no real drama in that game.

The OC/Coprophiliacs game was well played. The OC must have stranded at least a village of runners in scoring position.

Things are getting exciting as we approach mid season. I hope AttaRack crushes GDavis and the FTAS to beat the Nimrods. But the big one is the AttaRack/GDavis game. I would like to be alone in first place. It is where the Empire belongs.

The Empire has recently offered Pedro Guerrero for Darryl Strawberry and Wade Boggs for an infielder to be named later. Gerlost declined.

Just recently, The Empire has put a very enticing offer on the table for the struggling 2 time defending champions, The OC.

Pedro Guerrero for Reggie Jackson
Terry Pendleton for Harold Baines
Wally Joyner for Will Clark

Why stand still? Be creative, innovative. Think outside the box on the cutting edge.
Our generous offer to the OC is a win-win for both teams and we feel that the player swap will act as a catalyst for both teams in quest for a championship.

I'll give you Garner for Joyner

The Frank Tanana All-Stars @ The Nimrods game is complete. It might be one of the crazier games I've seen in a long time. Game video is attached.

Quote from: ultimate7 on 02/27/07, 01:36:17 PM
I'll give you Garner for Joyner

I am still in negotiations with the OC. If my proposed deal does not fall through, with the OC,  I shall come up with a package deal. I only trade in packages.

where is the latest spreadsheet?  do i have to download it or is it on richard's site?  i can't remember.

What a fuckin game. The FTAS-Nimrods was the game of the year so far. WOW!

TBG, how can you not have a spreadsheat? You posted it somewhere in the draft thread?

Quote from: The Dark Side on 02/27/07, 01:34:12 PM


The Empire has recently offered Pedro Guerrero for Darryl Strawberry and Wade Boggs for an infielder to be named later. Gerlost declined.

Just recently, The Empire has put a very enticing offer on the table for the struggling 2 time defending champions, The OC.

Pedro Guerrero for Reggie Jackson
Terry Pendleton for Harold Baines
Wally Joyner for Will Clark

Why stand still? Be creative, innovative. Think outside the box on the cutting edge.
Our generous offer to the OC is a win-win for both teams and we feel that the player swap will act as a catalyst for both teams in quest for a championship.

The OC has countered with Clark for Joyner in a one player swap.

The Empire has countered with Pendleton for Walling, Joyner for Clark, and Guerrero for Jackson in a package deal.

Lets see what happens. Negotiations are pretty tense here, but going in a friendly manner.

the oc prefers not to negotiate in public.  another pm has been sent to the empire. 

No one wanted to win that last game

Quote from: TBG on 02/27/07, 02:17:48 PM
the oc prefers not to negotiate in public.  another pm has been sent to the empire. 

And another(counter) has been sent right back.

done deal. 


the oc obtained pedro "vladimir" guerrero, wally joyner and terry "world champion" pendleton from the empire.

the oc gave up reggie jackson, will clark, and denny walling.

fighton, please make this our new line-up:

1. sheridan (CF)
2. pendleton (3B)
3. brunansky (RF)
4. joyner (1B)
5. guerrero (LF)
6. nokes (C)
7. grich (2B)
8. burleson (SS)
9. gooden (SP1)

bench:

1. Heep (B1)
2. Baines (B2)
3. D.Thon (B3)
4. Seitzer (B4)


pitchers:

1. Gooden (SP1)
2. Cox (SP2)
3. McDowell (RP1)
4. Stanley (RP2)

Is the OC stoned to the bone or something?  Did he use the force on you?  Yowza...

Quote from: fknmclane on 02/27/07, 04:10:15 PM
Is the OC stoned to the bone or something?  Did he use the force on you?  Yowza...

It's a win-win deal. The OC has nothing to lose. They have a 4 game losing streak, and the pressure from fans and sponsors left them no choice but for change.

Pedro Guerrero is having a career year so far, and he is a wild card that can elevate The OC back to winning ways.
The OC reunites with Pendleton, and he is a solid ball player with the heart of a lion, .853 average with runners in scoring position.
The Empire gets Reggie who has an intimate history with Nomaa and The Darkside.
Will Clark is a trade off for Wally Joyner. In fact, Wally has better stats the last two Fantasy seasons.
Walling for Pendleton works for us, because this now paves the way for Ryno's ghost (Ryne Sandberg) to avenge dee nee as he is set to crack the starting lineup. Sandberg is 4-4 off the bench this year with 1 home run, 2 doubles, and 5 RBI.

All in all, the deal is a simple trade off and should work for both teams.

My new lineup is still in the works for week 7. nomaa is elated and is anxious to meet the new Empire team members as soon as possible.

Quote from: fknmclane on 02/27/07, 04:10:15 PM
Is the OC stoned to the bone or something?  Did he use the force on you?  Yowza...

Dude...don't fucking question the OC.

the oc has a plan...

The Empire got the better player in two out of the three swaps and Pendleton isn't so much better than Walling that it negates that.  The OC has won a title so maybe they know something I don't.

goreds/tbt, please check your pm's.

Quote from: TBG on 02/27/07, 05:10:13 PM
goreds/tbt, please check your pm's.

how about you check that attitude right at the front door pal?

Quote from: TBG on 02/27/07, 05:10:13 PM
goreds/tbt, please check your pm's.

Quote from: GoReds on 02/27/07, 05:19:50 PM

Quote from: TBG on 02/27/07, 05:10:13 PM
goreds/tbt, please check your pm's.

how about you check that attitude right at the front door pal?

What was offered?

Quote from: TBG on 02/27/07, 02:17:48 PM
the oc prefers not to negotiate in public.

Quote from: fknmclane on 02/27/07, 04:52:10 PM
The Empire got the better player in two out of the three swaps and Pendleton isn't so much better than Walling that it negates that.  The OC has won a title so maybe they know something I don't.

Two titles...

I'm tempting to investigate to see if The OC isn't trying to throw the season to get the first pick in next year's draft. But I trust the team's integrity, so I'll approve the trade.

Can we get a recap of that apparantly amazing game that happened this morning?

damn, I was hoping for a season without trades

By the way, when is the trade deadline?

can we get a line-up change?  lots o movement here.

Coleman
Bergman
Hernandez
Rice
Evans
Henderson
Boone
Gaetti

DEE-NEE CITY - Davey Lopes hit a dramatic, three-run home run to cap a two-out, five run rally off of Bret Saberhagen in the bottom of the 10th inning to lift The Nimrods to a 19-17 victory over The Frank Tanana All-Stars in a Fantasy RBI League game played on Tuesday afternoon at Tengen Stadium.

"We had this game won," said Frank Tanana All-Stars manager Shooty Babbit after the game. "But just when we needed it the most, there was Bret Saberhagen coming out of the bullpen, just like The Family Circus in the Sunday funnies, just waiting to suck."

The Frank Tanana All-Stars (2-4) had taken an early eight run lead, only to see The Nimrods (2-4) claw their way back into the game. However, they still trailed by five in the ninth inning before making a furious rally. They had a chance to win the game, but Doug DeCinces was thrown out trying to score on Eric Davis' RBI single.

Lopes homered and drove in four for The Nimrods, while DeCinces added five hits and four RBI. Mark McGwire homered and drove in five for The Frank Tanana All-Stars in defeat.

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I forget who offered me Cox for Saberhagen....but I'll take it.

That wasn't Saberhagen's fault, that was all Chili Davis.  Actually you should fire the manager for playing Chili in CF while Kirby Puckett plays LF.

Shooty has some talent on his team. To be put it in a nice way, Canadians should just stick with hockey and curling.

Quote from: fightonusc on 02/27/07, 06:14:30 PM
I'm tempting to investigate to see if The OC isn't trying to throw the season to get the first pick in next year's draft. But I trust the team's integrity, so I'll approve the trade.

Trust me, The OC wants to win. They made offers to me last night during the negotiations which had nothing to do  with the currently  approved package-trade.

I did present the stats and facts, and the fuckin trade is a bilateral deal. Some of you meatheads need to separate hype from hope, and look at the stats for this season as well as figure out the contact-power formula which reveals a whole lot about a player's productivity when he hits the ball, how hard, and where. RBI has it's own life Force and nothing is as unsure as a sure thing.
The OC knows what they are doing, and I know what I am doing. Time will tell.
My impression is that TBG and BDawk are doing everything in their power to 3 peat...and there is still a lot of baseball left.

Anyways, Huge error by Chili Davis in the ninth with two outs. The FTAS had the game won, but a routine fly ball leads to extra innings and a walk off in favor of the Nimrods. Nothing is as unsure as a sure thing and this post is too fuckin long.

The OC and the FT All-Stars have agreed to terms on a deal and are awaiting the commissioner's approval.

Quote from: fightonusc on 02/27/07, 06:14:30 PM
I'm tempting to investigate to see if The OC isn't trying to throw the season to get the first pick in next year's draft.

This is an interesting concept.  It would be cool to turn this into a keeper league with a draft including a pool of unprotected players.

Trade denied. I've made it clear since the beginning that you must have two SPs and two RPs. The issue is more with the advantage (setting match-ups, extra inning games) that The OC would get by having a third SP and less the disadvantage the FTAS would have from only having one SP.

I'm willing to hear an appeal if one is made.

Quote from: fightonusc on 02/28/07, 01:00:01 PM
Trade denied. I've made it clear since the beginning that you must have two SPs and two RPs. The issue is more with the advantage (setting match-ups, extra inning games) that The OC would get by having a third SP and less the disadvantage the FTAS would have from only having one SP.

I'm willing to hear an appeal if one is made.

Here's my appeal:


Lick my asshole



Thank you

i was hoping this deal wouldn't have to go public, (please be sure to keep the players names private)...

i understand the rule and it makes sense for the draft, but after the draft if someone wants to do their rotation however they wish, they're already allowed to do that.

for instance, shooty has berenguer throwing second out of the bullpen.  so if he wants three relievers and one starter, it seems ok with him.

i'll understand your ruling either way, but it seems more like a competition committee decision, rather than like what a hard and fast league rule should be.

i totally agree that the draft should go with two starters and two relievers, but after the draft i think it gives owners more flexibility to do what they wish.  (note: this makes sense to me for the pitchers, but not fielders... i think the rules on the fielders should remain the same.)

so that is my appeal.  you can take more time to decide and the oc will accept your decision as final.

Quote from: TBG on 02/28/07, 01:09:30 PM


Lick my asshole



Thank you

The Darkside disapproves of this trade. It would not be fair for any team to have three starters.

Quote from: TBG on 02/28/07, 01:09:30 PM
i was hoping this deal wouldn't have to go public, (please be sure to keep the players names private)...

i understand the rule and it makes sense for the draft, but after the draft if someone wants to do their rotation however they wish, they're already allowed to do that.

for instance, shooty has berenguer throwing second out of the bullpen.  so if he wants three relievers and one starter, it seems ok with him.

i'll understand your ruling either way, but it seems more like a competition committee decision, rather than like what a hard and fast league rule should be.

i totally agree that the draft should go with two starters and two relievers, but after the draft i think it gives owners more flexibility to do what they wish.  (note: this makes sense to me for the pitchers, but not fielders... i think the rules on the fielders should remain the same.)

so that is my appeal.  you can take more time to decide and the oc will accept your decision as final.

This is a fair point. I'll make a final ruling after the final game of the week is played today.

ps. on the competition side:

if you rule that all teams must remain two starters and two relievers, then i contest that all pitching rotations must remain in natural order as well (SP1, SP2, RP1, RP2), because of the way watch games work out.  the way that the computer manager handles the bullpens it makes more sense to do it uniformly across all teams.

my point is that if the trade is accepted, i would agree that all teams should have to have at least 1 starting pitcher because he's gauranteed to go 4 innings.  that's the only thing that is for sure.  after that it's pretty much a toss-up as far as how many innings you get out of whom.  the allowance of more relievers and whatever can give more flexibility to people looking to trade.  it makes more package deals available.

again, we will go with your final decision after appeals.  i don't think this needs to go to a vote because we're in season and i would like to hear your explanation/reasoning.  this is actually a good discussion and one that's worthwile in my opinion.

For the record, I stand with USC's decision.  League rules state 2 SP, 2 RP.  Given the obvious differences in stamina between the two, I think that this rule should stand beyond merely the draft.  After all, we can't trade away our outfield after the draft and play infielders there, can we?

Quote from: TBG on 02/28/07, 01:27:47 PM
if you rule that all teams must remain two starters and two relievers, then i contest that all pitching rotations must remain in natural order as well (SP1, SP2, RP1, RP2), because of the way watch games work out.  the way that the computer manager handles the bullpens it makes more sense to do it uniformly across all teams.

I think this is also a fair rule.

Quote from: Nacho on 02/28/07, 01:29:10 PM

Quote from: TBG on 02/28/07, 01:27:47 PM
if you rule that all teams must remain two starters and two relievers, then i contest that all pitching rotations must remain in natural order as well (SP1, SP2, RP1, RP2), because of the way watch games work out.  the way that the computer manager handles the bullpens it makes more sense to do it uniformly across all teams.

I think this is also a fair rule.

so you are a totalitarian!  come on man, i thought you were more liberal... think outside the box.  just so everyone knows, i don't want that to have to be the rule.  i think being looser with this rule will allow owners to be more free to run teams the way they wish and to expand their thinking.

Having three starters on one team goes against nature. The RBI Gods did not intend to have it that way.

2sp, 2 relief pitchers
I also think that no starting pitcher should be allowed to have 2 consecutive starts. But this can be voted on next season.

Quote from: Nacho on 02/28/07, 01:29:10 PM

Quote from: TBG on 02/28/07, 01:27:47 PM
if you rule that all teams must remain two starters and two relievers, then i contest that all pitching rotations must remain in natural order as well (SP1, SP2, RP1, RP2), because of the way watch games work out.  the way that the computer manager handles the bullpens it makes more sense to do it uniformly across all teams.

I think this is also a fair rule.

Honestly, I thought this was already a rule until Shooty changed his order up - had I known this was an option when I was in the league, I would've also set my pitching order up SP-RP-RP-SP.  Can I use this as my excuse for why I lost the World Series in three of the four seasons I played?

Quote from: The Dark Side on 02/28/07, 01:38:46 PM
I also think that no starting pitcher should be allowed to have 2 consecutive starts. But this can be voted on next season.

I like that idea, but that's a lot of extra fiddling with the ROM - you'd have to change it every week even if there were no trades.

Quote from: TBG on 02/28/07, 01:33:39 PM

Quote from: Nacho on 02/28/07, 01:29:10 PM

Quote from: TBG on 02/28/07, 01:27:47 PM
if you rule that all teams must remain two starters and two relievers, then i contest that all pitching rotations must remain in natural order as well (SP1, SP2, RP1, RP2), because of the way watch games work out.  the way that the computer manager handles the bullpens it makes more sense to do it uniformly across all teams.

I think this is also a fair rule.

so you are a totalitarian!  come on man, i thought you were more liberal... think outside the box.  just so everyone knows, i don't want that to have to be the rule.  i think being looser with this rule will allow owners to be more free to run teams the way they wish and to expand their thinking.

I have often stated that when it comes to RBI, I am a purist.

Quote from: BeefMaster on 02/28/07, 01:40:06 PM

Quote from: The Dark Side on 02/28/07, 01:38:46 PM
I also think that no starting pitcher should be allowed to have 2 consecutive starts. But this can be voted on next season.

I like that idea, but that's a lot of extra fiddling with the ROM - you'd have to change it every week even if there were no trades.

i think it's a great idea too.  but i wouldn't want to run the league, either....

Can't the commish just alternate who starts week-to-week?

Quote from: Nacho on 02/28/07, 01:44:00 PM

Quote from: TBG on 02/28/07, 01:33:39 PM

Quote from: Nacho on 02/28/07, 01:29:10 PM

Quote from: TBG on 02/28/07, 01:27:47 PM
if you rule that all teams must remain two starters and two relievers, then i contest that all pitching rotations must remain in natural order as well (SP1, SP2, RP1, RP2), because of the way watch games work out.  the way that the computer manager handles the bullpens it makes more sense to do it uniformly across all teams.

I think this is also a fair rule.

so you are a totalitarian!  come on man, i thought you were more liberal... think outside the box.  just so everyone knows, i don't want that to have to be the rule.  i think being looser with this rule will allow owners to be more free to run teams the way they wish and to expand their thinking.

I have often stated that when it comes to RBI, I am a purist.

so what team do you own?  the cardinals?  the tigers?   ...that's what i thought.  there is no purity in rbi or real baseball for that matter.  it's always changing.  we are playing fantasy rbi baseball and we can make up whatever rules we want.  

again, i trust richard will come up with a fair decision.

Quote from: fightonusc on 02/28/07, 01:00:01 PM
Trade denied. I've made it clear since the beginning that you must have two SPs and two RPs. The issue is more with the advantage (setting match-ups, extra inning games) that The OC would get by having a third SP and less the disadvantage the FTAS would have from only having one SP.

I'm willing to hear an appeal if one is made.

But the OC would have the disadvatage because they would have Saberhagen.  Have you seen his stats this year????  If I could, I would bench him and have only three pitchers.  I will trade him for Raphael Santana if I could.

that's what i mean, my proposal allows the ownership to have more flexibility.

No taxation without representation...

While we're at it, why don't we just let a team start 6 OFs?  Why not let the same guy bat twice in the order?  Why not use 1988 attributes rather than '86 and '87?  It's a slippery slope.  Let's stick to the rules.

Quote from: Nacho on 02/28/07, 01:56:40 PM
While we're at it, why don't we just let a team start 6 OFs?  Why not let the same guy bat twice in the order?  Why not use 1988 attributes rather than '86 and '87?  It's a slippery slope.  Let's stick to the rules.

tsk, tsk, tsk... the old slippery slope fallacy.  what i have proposed is not strange to real major league baseball we see today.  when do you ever see two starters pitch in the same game?  now that THAT fact is brushed aside, how many relief pitchers do we see in a game?  it is very common for there to be at least three relievers. 

How about if I convert Stanley into a starter.  I just have to build up his arm strength.

Quote from: Nacho on 02/28/07, 01:56:40 PM
Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling.
Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes...
The dead rising from the grave.
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria.

If I he gets up, then I'll get up.  It'll be anarchy!

I think whatever rules were placed at the beginning should stand. No rule changing in the middle of the season, damn it. The oc are cheaters, i say we grab our torches and pitch forks and force them out of the league.

Quote from: Nacho on 02/28/07, 01:46:20 PM
Can't the commish just alternate who starts week-to-week?

It'd be a pain to do - since he starts the game in Watch Mode, the computer would pick the starters unless he could get it changed for both teams before it selected them, so he'd have to act both quickly and ambidextrously.

Quote from: BeefMaster on 02/28/07, 02:16:29 PM

Quote from: Nacho on 02/28/07, 01:46:20 PM
Can't the commish just alternate who starts week-to-week?

It'd be a pain to do - since he starts the game in Watch Mode, the computer would pick the starters unless he could get it changed for both teams before it selected them, so he'd have to act both quickly and ambidextrously.

Wouldn't it just be a matter of alternating the lineup?

Also, I wouldn't be opposed to having the order each week be SP, RP, RP, SP if the SP's switched game to game.  That might be the best way to run things.  But I think it should be standard from team to team.

Everyone quit bitching about "rules"  It's a trade in a fake rbi baseball fantasy league...

Quote from: BDawk on 02/28/07, 02:35:15 PM
Everyone quit bitching about "rules"  It's a trade in a fake rbi baseball fantasy league...

How is it fake?

Quote from: Nacho on 02/28/07, 02:22:18 PM

Quote from: BeefMaster on 02/28/07, 02:16:29 PM

Quote from: Nacho on 02/28/07, 01:46:20 PM
Can't the commish just alternate who starts week-to-week?

It'd be a pain to do - since he starts the game in Watch Mode, the computer would pick the starters unless he could get it changed for both teams before it selected them, so he'd have to act both quickly and ambidextrously.

Wouldn't it just be a matter of alternating the lineup?

Also, I wouldn't be opposed to having the order each week be SP, RP, RP, SP if the SP's switched game to game.  That might be the best way to run things.  But I think it should be standard from team to team.

i like that, if we end up doing this for the second half of the season or next season.

Quote from: Nacho on 02/28/07, 02:42:51 PM

Quote from: BDawk on 02/28/07, 02:35:15 PM
Everyone quit bitching about "rules"  It's a trade in a fake rbi baseball fantasy league...

How is it fake?

I thought those were computer guys on the field...not actual people

Did it seem fake...when my best friend was bitten in half right in front of me...then eaten alive, screaming?

I think you're a fake.  I think you're a phony...and a bad reporter.  How does that feel?  Now tell me something.  Does this seem fake?

Quote from: Nacho on 02/28/07, 02:22:18 PM

Quote from: BeefMaster on 02/28/07, 02:16:29 PM

Quote from: Nacho on 02/28/07, 01:46:20 PM
Can't the commish just alternate who starts week-to-week?

It'd be a pain to do - since he starts the game in Watch Mode, the computer would pick the starters unless he could get it changed for both teams before it selected them, so he'd have to act both quickly and ambidextrously.

Wouldn't it just be a matter of alternating the lineup?

Well, yeah, but that involves rebuilding the ROM every week, which is at least a minor pain when you consider that you have to make sure you don't mess it up while you're putting it back together.

Now that I think of it, though, he might rebuild it anyway with updated stats, and I think the editor has a "switch players" function to flip their spots in the lineup, so this is probably a much smaller deal than I'm making it.

this gives me an idea for another topic...

http://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?topic=17016.0

The rule was initially made to make sure that one person didn't hog four SPs in the draft. However, as I stated before, I'm concerned that if you let teams start trading SPs for RPs, you'll eventually get to a large imbalance. I had less problems with Shooty moving Saberhagen to the end because a) it only impacts his team and b) it mimics what you can do if you are playing in real life (you could pitch your four pitchers in whatever order you want if you are playing another person).

so do we have an official ruling on the oc/ft all-stars trade proposal?

Yes it was official, he said no trade.  Do you want him to send you a signed statement?

Actually, I hadn't made it official yet.

But now I have. The trade is denied. For the rest of the season, let it be clear that you must have 2 SP and 2 RP on your roster. However, you can place them where ever you want within your rotation.

The Attarack @ GDavis game is complete, and video is attached.

Quote from: fightonusc on 02/28/07, 04:28:13 PM
you can place them where ever you want within your rotation.

i'll tell you EXACTLY where you can put them.


thanks for the ruling.  it was fair and just.  i have no quarrel with you good sir.

ultimate on the other hand...

Quote from: ultimate7 on 02/28/07, 04:19:58 PM
Yes it was official, he said no trade.  Do you want him to send you a signed statement?

Quote from: fightonusc on 02/28/07, 04:28:13 PM
Actually, I hadn't made it official yet.

that's a burn.

a trade proposal has been finalized between the ft all-stars and the oc.

the oc gives up SP danny cox for the frank tanana all-star's SP bret saberhagen.

seeing as this trade fits into league guidelines we assume it is final.

the oc would like to have this pitching set-up for week 7:

SP1 gooden
SP2 sabes
RP1 mcdowell
RP2 stanley

further, we do not wish to discuss the inner workings of the previously stricken deal.  in fact, said deal wasn't even included in the original trade talks.  suffice it to say that there was no ill-will involved in either team's motives toward each other or any other entity in the league.  it was merely an attempt to test the waters from two hard-working and imaginitive owners.  a couple of good looking bill veeck's if you will, but one with a much more awesome basement.

Quote from: TBG on 02/28/07, 04:59:01 PM
suffice it to say that there was no ill-will involved in either team's motives toward each other or any other entity in the league. 

Speak for yourself.  I meant ill will towards all of you...especially Saberhagen.

Deal is APPROVED! And U7 is CUNTED!

let it be known that i still consider ultimate7 an iff.  he is an integral part of the rbi world and has dedicated many hours, nay, i say years to the great cause of 8 bit gaming and crunching statistics.  the cut of his jib always has a slight edge to it, and for that we should all be grateful.

You know, this kind of thread is the antithesis of Dee-Nee.  It goes against everything I stand for as a faux-Internet celebrity, RBI Baseball fan and all-around loser.  I cannot believe it is 2007 and this shit is still happening in the world.  I think I'd rather be living in Albania right now than be a part of this board and this league.  I mean seriously, how the fuck can you trade Potatoes? 

(http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9491&d=1148755931)

The OC is dead to me and I hope they meet up with the POOPYDICKS in the playoffs.  This means war...

CUNTED!

Reggie was too much of a cunt...you're next

reggie just wasn't cutting it.  he only had 4 hr's.

he was our first round pick and didn't put up those type of numbers.  nokes and wclark had 4 and sheridan was close behind at three.

we thought we could get better value out of a package of players and spread the production around, rather than have one one key line-up spot under producing.

rbi hall of famer or no, the oc is about winning, and if you can't help us win, then you better get out.

Dead....  To....  Me....

i wont be online tomorrow til the nighttime.  please take it out on bdawk.

I'm really not mad, I'm just disappointed.  You kids today are so obsessed with the here and now, the What Have You Done For Me Lately?  mentality.  Justice is a key lime pie served with a glass of hot cocoa, remember that...

Our next order of business is to get Gantry band from these boards...who can help?

Is there a trade deadline?

Did I beat the whine team?  There's no way in hell I'm going to watch the whole game.

The trade deadline is after the Week 10 games. I'm tempted to extend trades for one week via the waiver wire, but fuck that shit.

DEE-NEE CITY - Mike Heath homered three times and drove in five as part of a 6-for-6 day to lead GDavis to a 23-20 victory over Attarack in a Fantasy RBI League game played Wednesday afternoon at Tengen Stadium.

George Bell added two home runs for GDavis (4-2), who remained in a tie for first place in the Gantry Division with The Empire. Bell joined Tony Armas and Harry Spilman by each driving in four.

Attarack (3-3) had a chance to tie the game late, scoring three times in the ninth and getting the tying batter to the plate with one out. However, having used their allotment of four pinch-hitters, reliever John Franco was forced to bat, and hit into a game-ending double play.

"From what I understand, our guys played very hard out there," said GDavis manager GDavis after the game. "Of course, I was too busy counting my piles of gold and cataloging my extensive Motorhead bootleg collection to be bothered to watch. But my assistant Moses watched the game, and reported back to me that it was 'neat' and that 'there were lots of pretty colors and other shiny objects at the field, even fireworks that go BOOM'."

Kirk Gibson was valiant in defeat for Attarack, homering three times and driving in seven. Tim Raines added a pair of homers and scored three times.

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spreadsheet attached thru week 6

I thought USC had already made a final decision about the trade, my bad

I'd like to switch Kruk's spot in the batting order with Brett's for next week.

Quote from: Nacho on 03/01/07, 01:59:08 PM
I'd like to switch Kruk's spot in the batting order with Brett's for next week.

You fear the Empire. My newly assembled team is built to score 30 runs. Ryne Sandberg has been promoted to starting shortstop, Reggie Jackson feels rejuvinated with the Empire, and Will the Thrill will light up Mike Witt.

The CommieHitlers seem nervous in facing the Empire in week 7.

Great, I get to bear the burdens of the OC firesale.

It should be a great match up Nacho. Your commies put up 12 runs in 4 last game. I bet your team is riding high on the confidence.

Gantry Divison swept the Dove Divison in week 6. The Gantry Division is superior.

I'm just waiting for Canseco to produce the numbers that made me draft him in the first round.

Great writeup on the GDavis/Attarack game, fighton.  I did overhear GDavis' assistant moses' tell him that "I seen Heath hit a bunch of balls a loooon way."

Gantry and I are just happy we didn't pick Reggie.

screw you nacho you picked out guy in the draft like three or four times.  i hope canseco gets hit in the head with a flyball.

and screw potatoes too.  he is "the straw that stirs the drink."  you know how i know that?  because he sucks!  there, i said it.

Shooty, do you want to move Cox back into the No. 2 SP slot or keep him as the No. 2 RP?

Please make the following changes.

1) Tim Raines OF
2) Cal Ripken IF
3) Glenn Davis IF
4) Kirk Gibson OF
5) Tim Laudner C
6) Tommy Herr IF
7) Tim Teufel IF
8.) Tony Gwynn OF

1) John Morris
2) Paul Molitor
3) Randy Bush
4) Willie Randolph

SP1) Jack Morris
SP2) Donnie Moore
RP1) John Franco
RP2) Nolan Ryan

This thread is like a whole new world or something...didn't even know it existed.  In other words, "I never seen thems before!!"

New order:

Smith
Maldanado
Schmidt
McGwire
Davis
Carter
Johnson
Puckett

Viola
Cox
Bedrosian
Berenguer

Any games set for anytime soon?  Move your ass, ManFreddy!

I'm finishing the ROM now. Lots of changes with the trades, etc...

Quote from: TBG on 02/28/07, 04:59:01 PM

SP1 gooden
SP2 sabes
RP1 mcdowell
RP2 stanley

BUMP for me

OK, TBG, Shooty, and Attez, I have, are those the only changes for this week that I missed?

From other thread I see darkside also had changes, Darkside, can you please list your lineup here in a normal list

Quote from: Nacho on 03/01/07, 01:59:08 PM
I'd like to switch Kruk's spot in the batting order with Brett's for next week.

Quote from: TBG on 02/27/07, 04:01:35 PM
the oc:

1. sheridan (CF)
2. pendleton (3B)
3. brunansky (RF)
4. joyner (1B)
5. guerrero (LF)
6. nokes (C)
7. grich (2B)
8. burleson (SS)
9. gooden (SP1)

bench:

1. Heep (B1)
2. Baines (B2)
3. D.Thon (B3)
4. Seitzer (B4)


pitchers:

1. Gooden (SP1)
2. saberhagen (SP2)
3. McDowell (RP1)
4. Stanley (RP2)

Thanks for the updates, I should be OK now, using USC's text file