American RBI League

[Guido13]

We have six or seven if Ultimate wants in also.

Bastardo
TBT
Attezzobal
OctoFranco
Bonny
OtherRyno

Player Pool is both the Arcade and NES version... ...play everyone twice, 10-game season.

[ultimate7]

I'd be happy to play if you want another

[OtherRyno]

When's the draft?   

[Guido13]

We have six or seven if Ultimate wants in also.

Bastardo
TBT
Attezzobal
OctoFranco
Bonny
OtherRyno

Player Pool is both the Arcade and NES version... ...play everyone twice, 10-game season.

Okay, let's have Ultimate in there too, that makes a 7 team league, play everyone twice, 12 game season... ...I will randomly draw the draft order, you're just going to have to trust me, if you guys don't mind.

[Guido13]

We have six or seven if Ultimate wants in also.

Bastardo
TBT
Attezzobal
OctoFranco
Bonny
OtherRyno

Player Pool is both the Arcade and NES version... ...play everyone twice, 10-game season.

Okay, let's have Ultimate in there too, that makes a 7 team league, play everyone twice, 12 game season... ...I will randomly draw the draft order, you're just going to have to trust me, if you guys don't mind.

I ripped up a sheet of paper and wrote our names on them, I'm going to blind draw them now and post the draft order.

[Guido13]

Okay here is the Draft Order -

1. TBT
2. OtherRyno
3. Bonny
4. Bastardo
5. Ultimate7
6. Attezzobal
7. OctoFranco

Remember pick contracts are as is:

1st Rounder - $10 mil/3 years/RFA
2nd Rounder - $9 mil/3 years/RFA
3rd Rounder - $8 mil/3 years/RFA
and so on...

Must start four IF, three OF and a catcher... ...must have a two man pitching rotation

[Guido13]

I just threw those starters out there, that seems right, but you can interject your thoughts before draft starts.

[TβG]

just my two cents since i'm not even in your league, but if you have a draft pool that large, you may want to conisder doing actual positions.  makes it more of a challenge.

[ultimate7]

I assume 2 starting pitchers and 2 relievers?

Also what about guys who are in both NES and Arcade, could you have NES Canseco and Arcade Canseco on your team?

[Attezzobal]

Also, would you mind being a bit more detailed about the salary stuff?

OtherRyno is actually Ryno, right?

With that whole free agent bidding thing, how many rounds is that going to make the draft?

[Guido13]

Teddy ballgame makes a good point about the position thing, I kind of agree, what do others think?

Two starters, Two relief pitchers... ...and I love the idea of having NES Canseco and Arcade Canseco floating around out there... ...it's a must!

OtherRyno is actually a different Ryno... ...the draft will be 10 rounds... ...then the FA bidding starts, you can make an opening bid on any player, then you must wait until the other six teams get an opening bid in before making your second bid... ...the bid on a player will go for 24 hours, then at the end the original bidder gets the last opportunity to buy the player... ...you must carry 16 players on your active roster, however you can own more as longer as you are under the cap, any player signed beyond the first 16 will require a 2 year unrestricted FA contract.

[ultimate7]

Someone is going to have to figure out positions for the NES and Arcade Reserves (more detailed than the IF/OF/C that we use for the other league) if we are going position specific.

[Attezzobal]

I think the specific positions make things far too complicated, Jack Clark could technically be both an outfielder and a first baseman for example. I'd prefer the 3 OF, 4 IF, 1 C deal, but obviously it's up to you in the end.

Also, does the salaries for drafted players really matter? Since we're all drafting 10 players we'll start with the same salary on that side, is it for trades and what-not? Otherwise, I see no reason to have salaries for players drafted in a specific round. I really like the idea of just having a 16 round fantasy draft, it's not too confusing and everything should run much smoother and faster than the bidding process.


Those are just my two cents though.

[Guido13]

Also, would you mind being a bit more detailed about the salary stuff?

OtherRyno is actually Ryno, right?

With that whole free agent bidding thing, how many rounds is that going to make the draft?

We all need to be under the impression that this isn't going to be smooth as silk, but if developed properly it could end up being a good time.

We could just skip the position specific aspect, will the idea that leaving it the way it is creates a ton more free agent and expansion possibilities.

[Guido13]

I suppose the money issue comes down to trading and the idea of the salary cap... ...and to say things like, "I'd like to make a deal with you, but the numbers just don't work out."

It really won't come into play as far as effecting future salary caps until year four when the resigning period begins, that will be interesting, if it ever gets that far... ...trading away guys that you know you won't be able to resign or don't want to try and resign.

[Attezzobal]

Sounds good. I'm still confused about the free agent bidding though, and worried that it's going to take forever (kinda like how you can't do an auction league draft online), I'd prefer just doing sixteen rounds and assigning a value for each round. Anyone want to post arcade stats/positions? Are we going to scrap the positions altogether or go with the 3OF/4IF/1C?

[TβG]

as far as the positions per player in arcade, you have to decide what year their stats are from and then just find where they played the most games that year.  the individual positions for nes rbi are in my excel sheet on the other draft thread.

just use baseball-reference.com  it takes time, but it's easy.

[Guido13]

Sounds good. I'm still confused about the free agent bidding though, and worried that it's going to take forever (kinda like how you can't do an auction league draft online), I'd prefer just doing sixteen rounds and assigning a value for each round. Anyone want to post arcade stats/positions? Are we going to scrap the positions altogether or go with the 3OF/4IF/1C?

Let's just go with 3OF/4IF/1C

If that awkward player bidding thing starts to drag out, we can change it on the fly, but if people but in strong bids for players then others can just reply that they have no interest and if it's signed off by the other players we can move on... ...like if I but in a bid for Paul Molitor at 4 mil/yr, and everyone else has no interest in Molitor at 4 mil/yr then they can say "I'm out" and when everyone else is out, we move on.

[Attezzobal]

The problem is, we're going to have to do that a total of 42 times (6 free agents per team, 7 teams), not to mention if someone bids really low it's going to take even longer as the bids continue to rise. I like the salary cap (although not in real life), but I'd prefer to just do it as a 136 salary cap (16=1st, 15=2nd, 14=3rd, so on), it'll still make trades complicated, but eliminate the length of free agent signings.

I'll go ahead and get started on Arcade RBI position qualifications, Teddy, mind posting your spreadsheet or positions in this thread?

[ultimate7]

Teddy's NES positions:

http://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?topic=10015.msg177766#msg177766