RBI Baseball Secret Revised

[gamme]

This is pretty confusing.  I'll try to explain it.

You are on your second to last pitcher and so you have one more left in the bulpen (and have already used uo two).  You want to pinch hit for this pitcher so that he will not be taken out when the next half-inning starts.  This will always happen as long as you've already used up the 4th pitcher on the list (as either your starting pitcher or your first reliever).

When I say 4th pitcher on the list I mean the order that RBI has the pitchers listed going down.

This only works with the 1st controller.

I haven't checked every possibility but this seems to be what's going on.  It would be nice to find this in the code - I don't know much about code.

-gamme

[BDawk]

I have no idea what's going on here

[Stock]

This is pretty confusing.  I'll try to explain it.

You are on your second to last pitcher and so you have one more left in the bulpen (and have already used uo two).  You want to pinch hit for this pitcher so that he will not be taken out when the next half-inning starts.  This will always happen as long as you've already used up the 4th pitcher on the list (as either your starting pitcher or your first reliever).

When I say 4th pitcher on the list I mean the order that RBI has the pitchers listed going down.

This only works with the 1st controller.

I haven't checked every possibility but this seems to be what's going on.  It would be nice to find this in the code - I don't know much about code.

-gamme

Excellent find gamme!!

I will be sure to use this after about 5 games of drinking RBI.  By then, my opponent will never catch onto the fact that I didn't put in a new pitcher.  Ha Ha.

I will also have to reverse my stance that this should be allowed in ATG type of play.  Since 1st player is only able to do this, it would not be fare to allow it.

[ultimate7]

Nice find, I'll have to try this out

[gamme]

Crap, alright, I'll re-explain it.

Here is Boston as RBI lists them:

Clemens
Hurst
Schiraldi
Stanley

For Boston, Stanley is the "4th pitcher on the list".  The glitch depends on who RBI labels as the last pitcher.

Now, as long as you use up Stanley and you are on another pitcher, you can pinch hit for that pitcher, and that pitcher will stay in.

This will work with any team and only works with the 1st controller.

P.S. It doesn't matter if you are on your 2nd or 3rd pitcher, just as long as you've used up the "4th pitcher on the list". 

No matter what pitchers you've used, when you have no pitchers left in the bullpen, the game will not let you pinch hit.

[gamme]

Yeah, it sucks they only make it 1st controller.  I'll feel like the asshole who won't pause the game for the second player when I use it.

[ultimate7]

This could make the coin flip for the COTUT more important

[gamme]

"No player can pinch hit for a pitcher unless there is at least one pitcher in said player's bullpen-regardless if NES allows for such, as this is also an easily correctable glitch."


As for this rule, I dont think the game will make this glitch.  Correct me if I'm wrong - the game never allows you to pinch hit when you have nobody in the bullpen.

I'm also trying to figure out if this is a programming glitch or something the programmers intended to happen.

[Gantry]

This is awesome work gamme, I intend to make a database page for it and update the FAQ...

Just to be 100% sure - the 4th pitcher has to be completely out of the game for this to happen, right?  He can be neither the last pitcher in the pen or the player you are pinch hitting for...

[fknmclane]

I don't get it.

[gamme]

Just to be 100% sure - the 4th pitcher has to be completely out of the game for this to happen, right?  He can be neither the last pitcher in the pen or the player you are pinch hitting for...

Yes, that's right.  And once you have that, then the glitch should work EVERY time. 

Note: If you have no pitcher left in the pen the game won't even let you pinch hit for your pitcher.  So we are really only talking about being on the first reliever or the second reliever and having the glitch work. 

[gamme]

I'm hoping you saw the correction to the original post of this.

This glitch will work on your first reliever or second reliever, just as long as the 4th pitcher on the list is completely out of the game.  (For instance, if you started the game with the last pitcher on the list, then brought in your first reliever - you could pinch hit for him and he would stay in).  So you don't have to be on your second to last pitcher after all - just as long as the 4th pitcher on the list is completely out of the game.

It will never work when you on are on your final pitcher.

[Stock]

I'm hoping you saw the correction to the original post of this.

This glitch will work on your first reliever or second reliever, just as long as the 4th pitcher on the list is completely out of the game.  (For instance, if you started the game with the last pitcher on the list, then brought in your first reliever - you could pinch hit for him and he would stay in).  So you don't have to be on your second to last pitcher after all - just as long as the 4th pitcher on the list is completely out of the game.

It will never work when you on are on your final pitcher.

Will the pinch hitter stay in the 9-spot as well (assuming you don't make a pitcher substitution)?

ie.. I start with stanley.  Then I immediately take him out of the game and replace him with Clemens.  In Clemens' first ab, I ph with Armas.
Will Armas remain in the 9-spot for the rest of the game, assuming Clemens finishes the game?

[gamme]

Stock, yeah, he should.  I'd say try it out and see to be totally sure, but from what I've seen, yes, that is how things will work.

[gamme]

Stock, I just tried it out quickly and, yes, Armas is continues batting in the #9 spot while Clemens pitches.

It works almost like a DH.

[Gantry]

Wow, this can be parlayed into a pretty big advantage for player one.  Starting with your 4th guy as player one has some benefits now..

[nomaaa]

I don't get it.

[gamme]

For everyone who doesn't get it:

Given any team RBI lists the pitchers to choose from.  From top to bottom consider these pitchers to be #1, #2, #3, and #4. 

Now, once you use the #4 pitcher and substitute in another pitcher he is out of the game completely.  After doing this, as long as you have at least one pitcher left in the bullpen, you can pinch hit for your pitcher and he will still be pitching  for the next half-inning.


For Gantry and Stock:

Another note on how things work.  Let's say I started with Stanley, immediately brought in Clemens, then pinch hit Armas for Clemens so that Clemens is still pitching.  While Clemens is pitching Armas is batting in the 9 spot.

Now, I decide to take Clemens out and put in Hurst.  Hurst will be in the 9 spot.  But guess what - you can just pinch hit for Hurst now and have him still pitch!  All of this works out since you already used up Stanley.  So, yes, the best bet is to start out with the #4 pitcher.



This is the extent of the glitch.

[Stock]

Excellent!!!

[Gantry]

Bogus!!