2010 HoF Ballot

[fightonusc]

I just think it's general awesomeness.  I never thought of these guys as elite.  3000 hits is nice, but Molitor never overly impressed me.  Maybe it's a product of marketing or personality, but some guys just aren't big time enough for me. 

don't you guys know anything?  Look up Dawson's awesomeness stat and it is just not cutting it. 


Molitor was awesome, he had very good numbers and was injured about half the time, had he had a somewhat healthy career his numbers would be off the charts.

But he didn't have a somewhat healthy career. Which is why longevity and staying healthy is important.

[ryno]

Sandberg deserves the HoF for putting up such good numbers while knowing that every mexican on the team was greasing his wife's asshole.

[bonny]

Quisenberry.

[ryno]

if he could have maintained what he did from 80-85 for a full career, he'd be a no brainer. 

Even with the slide at the end of his career, he was right at a career ERA+ of 146.

[bonny]

6th all time

[Brookensrules!]

I just think it's general awesomeness.  I never thought of these guys as elite.  3000 hits is nice, but Molitor never overly impressed me.  Maybe it's a product of marketing or personality, but some guys just aren't big time enough for me. 

don't you guys know anything?  Look up Dawson's awesomeness stat and it is just not cutting it. 


Molitor was awesome, he had very good numbers and was injured about half the time, had he had a somewhat healthy career his numbers would be off the charts.

But he didn't have a somewhat healthy career. Which is why longevity and staying healthy is important.

He did have a long career, check his stats and despite being often injured he still had really good numbers.  Did you read my previous post?

[bonny]

Albert Belle should be a HOFer.

[ryno]

I agree. . . ..the hall is full of assholes. 



I think the hall needs a new voting system / set of rules.  The ones they have now served a purpose, but it's not working well today. 

I'd like to see them incorporate former players in the process.

[Attezz]

I'd like to see them incorporate former players in the process.

Maybe like a veterans committee or something

[Barton]

Dude on FoxSports with a good discussion of Larkin and Trammell. Sounds a lot like some of the banter we had back and forth on here.

[ryno]

I'd like to see them incorporate former players in the process.

Maybe like a veterans committee or something

Yeah, but don't limit it just former hall of famers.   And it should be something incorporated into the voting each year.  The Vet's committee votes every other year.

[BDawk]

Von Hayes

[bonny]

Belle.
Dude was a bad motherfucker, and apparently clean. Except for some cork. Scariest AL hitter for most of the 90's

[Reds]

Scariest house to trick or treat at for most of the 90's

[nomaaa]

Belle.
Dude was a bad motherfucker, and apparently clean. Except for some cork. Scariest AL hitter for most of the 90's

the dude even had his own candy bar.

[Barton]

Belle.
Dude was a bad motherfucker, and apparently clean. Except for some cork. Scariest AL hitter for most of the 90's

the dude even had his own candy bar.

It's got nothing on Hafner's.

[Mike D.]

Haffner's:

[Barton]

Ass it kicks, indeed.

[nomaaa]

Belle.
Dude was a bad motherfucker, and apparently clean. Except for some cork. Scariest AL hitter for most of the 90's

the dude even had his own candy bar.

It's got nothing on Hafner's.

i assume you know it's the same exact candy bar from the same vendor, then

[edfan]

One last useless promotion for the Crime Dog since today is the day that the voting is released.  Fred McGriff is currently tied for 26th all-time on the career home run leaderboard.  10 of those ahead of him could be considered to be McGriff's contemporary:

Bonds - 1st all time
Griffey Jr - 5 all time
Sosa - 6th all time
McGwire/Rodriguez - tied for 8th all time
Palmeiro - 11th all time
Thome - 12th all time
Ramirez - 15th all time
Thomas - tied for 21st all time
Sheffield - 24th all time


Of these contemporaries, 7 of them are pretty much proven steroid users.  Only Griffey, Thome, and Thomas as McGriff's contemporaries hit more home runs without being suspected of steroid use (that I am aware of anyway).  This, more than anything else, should merit his HOF status given the stance that writers have apparently taken against guys like McGwire