inside the park homer?

[Sacs Full]

has anyone ever done this without a player fuck-up..a flat out inside the park dinger?  My buddy said he did it with coleman against the computer(houston)..here's how it went down.........Coleman hits a moonshot dead center which hits off the top of the wall, it bounces back onto the feild which rolls slightly until the center fielder picks it up and slow throws it to the relay man(2nd baseman) by this time coleman's blazing around third, cutoff guy throws to home and coleman milliseconds beats the throw!

I think he's full off shit....can anyone else verify this?

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[BDawk]

I'd have to say he's full of shit. Unless a bonk or a throw to the wrong base occurred, I really can't see it happening.

Another thing, how did this thread have 120 views already?

[ultimate7]

It's hard to say. Coleman is fast, a couple of slow throws?  What probably happened was, the throw from CF was coming into 3B, he said it was "cutoff" so we can assume the SS got it, I guess, but that is still a long throw, it is just a question of whether you can consider this legit or if any ITPHR against the CPU can be considered legit.

They will always throw to 3rd if you haven't gotten there yet which means with Coleman you can then beat any play home.  I've certainly had ITP HR against the CPU where the guy scored before the 3B even received the throw, but I can't remember if the hit was just some BS ground ball that no one fielded.

[Jared]

Yeah, today i hit an inside the park homer with Billy Hatcher of Houston.  It was a BS slow ground ball up the middle that no one fielded.  It rolled past the pitcher and then past the CF who had to chase it to the fence. EZ home run.  

[Gantry]

I don't think a real inside the park is legit, it can only happen if someone messes up a fielding play or throws to the wrong base.  I can't see any hit that will be an inside-the-parker everytime...

[ultimate7]

Of course in real baseball MLB, most ITP HR, are from someone falling down or misplaying the ball also, so again, it's up to you what you consider legit.

[Dryden]

Even the described scenario isn't a "true" ITP, in the sense that if it were played perfectly, no way it happens.  I get ITPs all of the time on slow grounders through the infield, which are basically impossible to field correctly and avoid the ITP unless the defender assumes the infield has no shot immediately and sends his outfielders straight for the ball.

[ultimate7]

Even the described scenario isn't a "true" ITP, in the sense that if it were played perfectly, no way it happens.  I get ITPs all of the time on slow grounders through the infield, which are basically impossible to field correctly and avoid the ITP unless the defender assumes the infield has no shot immediately and sends his outfielders straight for the ball.

You're talking about against CPU or another human, no way another human should give up an ITP HR if they have any clue how to play.

[Baines]

This is true.  There's no excuse for a human opponent to give up an ITP.  In our drinking game it's an automatic finish.

[fknmclane]

I get them all the time against the computer.  The dribbler with eyes up the middle is usually the culprit and Vince or Lopes always come through.
Against a human opponent I don't see how it's possible.

[Wilfong]

I don't think it's possible to have a 100% legit ITP - human or comp.
But who doesn't love the balls that roll down the foul line and into the stands? Gary Carter hit one for me last night. It never fails to demoralize the other team. The great thing is, everyone knows about the glitches and loves them, even when they don't go their way (ie, the through the wall HR I gave up the game before that).

[Lips]

I disagree with mostly everyone here.  Though this case is very rare, it happens:

If the ball is hit very hard while traveling slowly and the outfielder thinks it's gonna be really close to a homer, then the outfielder will opt for the extreme run-in technique (he won't shimmy at all - he'll strictly run in).  At this point, like I said in rare cases, the outfielder is so far away from the ball by the time the ball bounces off the wall.  By the time he gets to the ball, it's impossible to get the runner out.

[Gantry]

I don't consider that a true inside the park homer.  The fielder chose to run so far away from the ball that it cannot be retrieved.  Perhaps it would have left the park without an extreme run-in but you never know...

That being said this does happen with us...

[Shooty]

This whole question depends on what you consider a player "fuck-up"

How about this scenario against the CPU:

You have to have a very fast runner and he hits the ball well to right centre field.  By the time the fielder picks up the ball, you are on your way to 3B.  The fielder throws it to 3B, but is cut off by the second baseman.  Second baseman throws home and its too late.  Both throws are fairly shitty in nature. And while it isn't in a direct straight line to home, its not that far off the ideal line.  With the second baseman cuting it off, its essentially just a relay throw from Right centre to the second baseman to homeplate.  To me, thats an ITP without a player fuck-up.   Thoughts?

[Gantry]

I would consider a "true" ITP homer one where if you got 10 chances to prevent the player from scoring on the exact same hit, you could not do it.  And to me none of the above have qualified...

[ultimate7]

I'd say for my criteria, if you got the exact same hit 10 times and a human trying to prevent the ITP HR allowed 4 (pretend it takes basically 2 perfect throws and perfect retrieval to nail him at home), then I'd say it's legit.  I'm not sure there is a hit that could accomplish this, but if there is, it would be by Coleman.

[GDavis]

The only semi-legit In the park homerun is when the ball bounces over the centerfielder's head.  I say that because sometimes it's hard to know whether to charge or hang back.  But either way I'd say it's an impossible feat without some kind of misplay by the fielder.

[fknmclane]

It's legit if Vince hits an in-between blooper and the centerfielder can't charge it and tries to hang back and the ball bounces up and over his head.

[Gantry]

If any fielder lets a ball bounce over his head that is a misplay and IMHO the ITP is not legit...

[fknmclane]

If any fielder lets a ball bounce over his head that is a misplay and IMHO the ITP is not legit...

Sure it's a misplay but shit happens.  Well, maybe it isn't legit.
I think the chance of an ITPH increases exponentially with drinks consumed.