It's quiet.....too quiet

[The Greeter]

Must be that everyone is mourning ND's football loss to Michigan last weekend.  Yes, my Notre Dame team sucks.  Thank God I've still got RBI.

[Turd]

I know this is blasphemy, but I've been playing a lot of Baseball Stars the past few months.  I never gave it a fair chance, and after playing it, I'm loving it.  Stats, diving/jumping, season mode, free agency and whatnot, it's great. I've been learning how to hack it, improving on the editor that someone wrote for it, and working a new piece that allows you to add 6 more MLB teams bringing the count to 14.  RBI has some serious competition for me, at least in 1P mode because of it's higher level of difficulty and depth of game options. 

RBI will still remain as my number one in-person game, but BSTARS has made its way into my regular repertoire. 

Also, I'm about an evening's worth of work away from releasing my Tecmo (not super) Bowl 32 team update for this season.

[Sportsplosion]

I've been recreating the 2011 playoff teams in Baseball Simulator 1.000, and I've been trying my best to find a pitcher home run in RBI Baseball, but it seems like the computer won't do it in a watch game. I'm using that ROM someone made years ago in which every player has the stats of a pitcher and balls and strikes don't count, simming at 64x speed, but it just won't happen, and I'm really not enthused about starting to play that ROM by hand.

[broiler]

i saw jimmy key hit a deep pop up in which the outfielder did an early throw which caused a bop resulting in the ball flying through the right field wall for a early throw bop pitcher homerun wallzie

[BeefMaster]

I've been recreating the 2011 playoff teams in Baseball Simulator 1.000, and I've been trying my best to find a pitcher home run in RBI Baseball, but it seems like the computer won't do it in a watch game. I'm using that ROM someone made years ago in which every player has the stats of a pitcher and balls and strikes don't count, simming at 64x speed, but it just won't happen, and I'm really not enthused about starting to play that ROM by hand.

We've gone through a ton of Watch Games in our fantasy leagues, and there's never been a pitcher homer in one of those, either, although there was one that was caught at the base of the fence and may have been a wallzie if it had gone down the line.

Turd, I've been a Baseball Stars fan for years - it's been one of my favorites since I first played it.  By "bringing the count to 14", you're saying you can increase the league to that size?  That would be pretty cool.

[Attezz]

i saw jimmy key hit a deep pop up in which the outfielder did an early throw which caused a bop resulting in the ball flying through the right field wall for a early throw bop pitcher homerun wallzie

This seems logical enough.

[Turd]

By "bringing the count to 14", you're saying you can increase the league to that size?  That would be pretty cool.

No, what I mean is that right now there are 8 base teams and 6 create a team spots.  I'm writing a little editor that lets you edit the values of the 6 creatable teams (uniforms, logo, player attributes), bringing the playable count up to 14 teams.  You'd basically need the .sav file along with the ROM to make it work (my editor will also be compatible with the powerpak, which is cool cause then I can play it on my real NES hardware). In the end, you'd still only get 6 teams in a season.  Thankfully though, I'm also writing a .sav state extractor that pulls the stats out of your sav file for a season, so you could run multiple seasons on the game and combine your stats to make a real season, which is cool.

I've gotten all the information to add the real team's icon logos to the team select page as well and I've drawn some nice logos for that to make the game even nicer to look at.

The only real nagging thing about the game at this point are the two bugs where it calculates a fulling inning of pitching even if you sub a pitcher in and sub him out without throwing a pitch, and the one where it doesn't notch a save for a closer if he's the home team and not in the game before the last inning.  Hoepfully we can get those fixed.

The cool part about using the 6 expansion teams is that I can put my Brewers as one of those teams and get all the cool free agency stuff that normally you can't get with the built-in teams. 

Lot's to do, we'll see when it all gets done.  I'm really loving BSTARS though, that's for sure.

[Gantry]

I know this is blasphemy, but I've been playing a lot of Baseball Stars the past few months.  I never gave it a fair chance, and after playing it, I'm loving it.  Stats, diving/jumping, season mode, free agency and whatnot, it's great. I've been learning how to hack it, improving on the editor that someone wrote for it, and working a new piece that allows you to add 6 more MLB teams bringing the count to 14.  RBI has some serious competition for me, at least in 1P mode because of it's higher level of difficulty and depth of game options. 

Baseball Stars is actually pretty respected around these parts.  Great gameplay and the create team feature was way ahead of its time.  No doubt it's a better 1-player game than RBI, but RBI has the edge for 2-player mode...

[BeefMaster]

I played a lot of Baseball Stars, but I never owned it, only rented it a bunch of times and then played it on emulators, so I honestly didn't know there was a limit of six created teams... I'd always assumed that you could create as many teams as they had icons available for them.  I usually just created my one team with all my friends on it and played it until we were awesome.

[Turd]

I thought it would allow more as well, but apprently it gives you 6 spots, even though there's room for one more icon there, it doesn't allow you to put a team there.  That's fine, you could technically make an NL ROM with 2 teams missing and an AL with all the teams and have yourself a grand old time.

Plus like I said, you can set it up so your favorite team is a custom team and then use that to go through the player hiring and firing.  Anyways, I'll post what I have when I'm all done, as well as the Tecmo ROM...

[TβG]

Bad news baseball always deserves a mention alongside baseball stars and baseball simulator.

[Sportsplosion]

I've played Bad News Baseball more than any of them, because that just happens to be the first one I owned. Its controls are really fluid and fun, but the lack of real players or stats clearly kills its popularity.

Plus, if we're just talking about gameplay and nothing else, Dusty Diamond's All-Star Softball is totally the best.

[TβG]

i think dusty has too many variables between the players defensively, but i have enjoyed that game as well.

what i like about Bad News is that they have detailed position strengths and abilities, diving and the availability to select your own all star rosters.  there is also a secret "alternate universe" that changes all the rosters to girls teams and doubles the playable teams.  about ten years ago i compiled detailed spreadsheets with the player data (just for the original game) and it was a big geek project for me.  that's what eventually led me to dee-nee because i never forgot my first love.

Bad News seems like it would be easy to edit.

[Turd]

I know a guy who was mapping out bad news but he dropped off the face if the earth before giving me the info to make an editor.


I like bstars because of season mode, a rating for base hit and for power, and defender ratings for each player. Very cool.

[The Greeter]

I must have never played BStars before now.  Have to admit, it's not too bad. 

[Gantry]

An uber-editor for all NES baseball games would be an amazing accomplishment.  We should start a kickstarter campaign for Turd to make that happen - one program/website for all 3 RBIs, Baseball Stars, Bad News Baseball, Simulator, Dusty Diamond etc. 

[Reds]

Fuck you, Stupid.

[thalivest]

An uber-editor for all NES baseball games would be an amazing accomplishment.  We should start a kickstarter campaign for Turd to make that happen - one program/website for all 3 RBIs, Baseball Stars, Bad News Baseball, Simulator, Dusty Diamond etc.

Why "all 3 RBI's"? In my opinion the only ones worth playing are the original and 3 (and 3 being the NES version). The Genesis versions (3, 4, 93 & 94) were shit, plain and simple. Other than the batting stances (crouched, open and closed), and somewhat looking real stadiums, I don't see how it's in the same class as RBI1 & 3.

Speaking of that, why does it seem that a lot of 16 bit, or maybe just Genesis, video games fall behing 8 bit (NES) games? Sports Talk Baseball had the nice camera angle with the same simple hitting mechanics, very good defence, and the best batting stances of any game of that era (late 80's-early 90's). And is it true that Super Batter Up (NES) was just another version, or predicated on RBI?

For some reason I never got into Baseball Stars. But season mode, stats, GM abitily (hiring, firing, buying players etc.) and any game with defensive position and ability ratings is plus for me.

[Gantry]

I specifically said NES, so the Genesis ones aren't in consideration and would add complexity to the program.  I could care less about RBI 2, but if this mythical uber-editor included most NES baseball games then why not?  Plus the codebase for RBI & RBI3 is in there, part 2 would be pretty simple to add...

[Gantry]

Fuck you, Stupid.

No need to capitalize Stupid, stupid.