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Started by SamC, 02/28/23, 09:39:24 AM

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SamC

Maybe you guys have seen this before, but I hadn't until last night. Usually, when playing the computer, their starting pitcher lasts up to 4 innings. Well, I was playing against California as St. Louis, down 11-3 going into the 5th inning. To my surprise, the computer kept Witt in the game. California was up 15-10 going into the 7th and Witt was still pitching! After scoring a run in the top of the 7th, they finally pull Witt out of the game and bring in Sutton. Sutton started throwing pitches, and I'd never seen an RBI pitcher go from pitch to pitch so rapidly. After striking out on three pitches, I realized he kept throwing the ball in the same location out of the strike zone with each pitch! So I sat back and just let it unfold. He kept on throwing the same pitch over and over again until he walked in 14 runs and the score was now 25-15. What the hell happened? Have you seen this before? Is this a documented glitch?

Gantry

My memory on all this is really hazy, but I think a CPU pitcher is pulled based on their stamina levels.  They start with a set stamina number, some pitchers are higher than other.  I think Blyleven has the most with like 50.  They lose one stamina for every regular pitch and 2 for a fast or slow ball.  I don't know the threshold, but I think there's an endurance check at the beginning of the inning and at each batter.  So (I think) a pitcher can last different innings based on how much juice they have. 

Regarding the same pitch thing, that I don't know about.  Not sure how the CPU determines what type of pitch to throw.

Shooty

Stamina has nothing to do when a pitcher is pulled by the CPU.  The starting pitcher goes a minimum of 4 innings no matter how tired he is.  He will stay in the game past 4 innings if his team is up by X number of runs (I forget the exact number).

The glitch you speak of with Sutton throwing rapid fire pitches does ring a bell.  Sounds like almost a sub category or offshoot of the mini-pitcher glitch where the pitcher can't find the strikezone.   

TempoGL

Quote from: Shooty on 02/28/23, 09:56:45 AM
Stamina has nothing to do when a pitcher is pulled by the CPU.  The starting pitcher goes a minimum of 4 innings no matter how tired he is.  He will stay in the game past 4 innings if his team is up by X number of runs (I forget the exact number).

This is how I remember it as well
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BeefMaster

I don't think I've ever seen the CPU pitcher get Steve Blass Disease before.

I believe Ultimate7 had a post somewhere that has the specifics of CPU substitutions but a quick search didn't turn it up. I am pretty sure that it's this, for the starter:
IF it's after the 4th inning AND you are ahead by less than five runs or behind by any amount - remove pitcher

I'm fuzzier after that, because it might depend a bit on when the first starter came out, but I want to say that it performs the same check starting in the 7th inning for the second starter, and the 8th and 9th for the relievers, but it also might depend on whether they're home or away, and when they decide to pinch hit.
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Gantry

Ah, I stand corrected - thanks all 

Shooty

Quote from: Gantry on 02/28/23, 10:49:11 AM
Ah, I stand corrected - thanks all

Don't worry.  At this point, you're more like a figurehead as opposed to someone with any sort of useful information. 

Gantry


ultimate7

Beef more or less explained it correctly, it is less than 4 runs.  Here is a thread that explains it:

https://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?topic=24703.0

Here is a similar thread on CPU Pinch Hitters use

https://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?topic=15653

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SamC

So nobody has seen this glitch?

Big Hath

the pitcher staying in the game doesn't sound like a glitch.  The CPU doesn't change pitchers if they have the lead by a certain margin.

Then after the pitching change, it does sound like it was a variant of the "mini-pitcher" glitch.  In this case I'm guessing that the pitcher was located close enough to the mound that it seemed normal, except he was still caught in whatever makes him throw way out of the strike zone.  He probably thought the plate was an entire screen-length away and was trying to curve it in that direction.
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ultimate7

I believe I have seen the CPU throw outside pitch after outside pitch over and over again.  No idea what caused it and I don't remember it last 50 straight pitches like that.  More like 20 straight, but maybe it was just that I turned it off after that long.
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