Where do you bat Armas

[GDavis]

Buckner is not that bad.  I've definately gone yard with him a bunch of times.

[JoeDirt]

not that you're gonna show it at the tourney or anything...

[GDavis]

not that you're gonna show it at the tourney or anything...

That's what you think bitch.

[JoeDirt]

I know....I'm erect after your PM that you're sending a check!

[fknmclane]

Gotta do it...pics?

[Stock]

Buckner is not decent.  He is terrible. Even if he can pull off a "lefty hit", you can still throw him out from right field.
Only Barrett, Spike, and Sullivan are worse as far as power goes.

Gedman's rating might be a little better, but he sucks just as much ass as Buckner every time I hit with him. Plus he's a righty, which works against him too. I really notice no practical difference between the two guys over time.

Another interesting stat regarding Gedman and Buckner.  In our straight pitch league (see the online RBI board), Gedman has 12 homers and Buckner has 0.  True, this is a straight pitch league, and we are not keeping track of batting average, but this still says something.

[RedBarron]

Buckner is not decent.  He is terrible. Even if he can pull off a "lefty hit", you can still throw him out from right field.
Only Barrett, Spike, and Sullivan are worse as far as power goes.

Gedman's rating might be a little better, but he sucks just as much ass as Buckner every time I hit with him. Plus he's a righty, which works against him too. I really notice no practical difference between the two guys over time.

Another interesting stat regarding Gedman and Buckner.  In our straight pitch league (see the online RBI board), Gedman has 12 homers and Buckner has 0.  True, this is a straight pitch league, and we are not keeping track of batting average, but this still says something.

Is buckner a starter?

[Stock]

Buckner is not decent.  He is terrible. Even if he can pull off a "lefty hit", you can still throw him out from right field.
Only Barrett, Spike, and Sullivan are worse as far as power goes.

Gedman's rating might be a little better, but he sucks just as much ass as Buckner every time I hit with him. Plus he's a righty, which works against him too. I really notice no practical difference between the two guys over time.

Another interesting stat regarding Gedman and Buckner.  In our straight pitch league (see the online RBI board), Gedman has 12 homers and Buckner has 0.  True, this is a straight pitch league, and we are not keeping track of batting average, but this still says something.

Is buckner a starter?

No.  Looks like Gantry has him on the bench.  Pretty sad he can't even hit a home run with the 64-point power boost off the bench.  Gedman has hit 12 bombs from the 8th spot on Lips' team.
Conclusion:  BB/GG (Buckner-Bad; Gedman-Good).  Take Buckner out of the line-up and leave Gedman in.

[GDavis]

You can certainly sub out Buckner.  You will simply lose when you play against me.  Bottom line.

[Mike D.]

I ALWAYS bat Armas leadoff.  He is usually good for a game opening dinger.

[ericdavisfan]

8 hole, save Hendu for situational, Burks 1

amen

[tronblast]

dont be fooled trying to play speed (burks) on leadoff with boston. get the best players up as many times as possible. you dont manufacture runs in RBI unless you're st. louis or houston. armas & hendo bat first & second (some days hendo bats first - depends how they're hitting em in warmups), and ellis in the 8 spot.

[Nacho]

How can anyone bat Armas 8th?  Then, when he comes up with two outs, you have the pitcher to contend with and you can simply put him on base (though I guess I should assume intentional walks are illegal in straight pitch?).

[Stock]

How can anyone bat Armas 8th?  Then, when he comes up with two outs, you have the pitcher to contend with and you can simply put him on base (though I guess I should assume intentional walks are illegal in straight pitch?).

Right on the money.  But even in straight pitch, tronblast is right.  You want to put your best players early in the line-up to maximize your number of ABs with your best hitters.  I like to bat Armas second, but only because I bench Buck.  For those of you that insist on leaving buckner in, you must bat armas first.  With the power boost, you can almost count on a homer in half of your ABs to lead of the game in straight pitch.

[Gantry]

Wow, the 8 spot is leading by a landslide.  Color me surprised yet again...

[JoeDirt]

Color me surprised yet again...

Tick tock you don't stop.  I wanna sex you up.

[ericdavisfan]

Wow, the 8 spot is leading by a landslide.  Color me surprised yet again...

Funny thing is, I don't really have a great reason for doing this, it's just the way I've always played the Sox since the days of begging my Mom to rent the game for me

[MarquisEXB]

How can anyone bat Armas 8th?  Then, when he comes up with two outs, you have the pitcher to contend with and you can simply put him on base (though I guess I should assume intentional walks are illegal in straight pitch?).

That's fine with me. I'd rather lead off the inning with my leadoff guy anyway. Actually there was a study on MLB saying walking #8 to get to the pitcher isn't the best strategy, because you hit the top of the order the innning after. It's better to get to the top of the order with 1 out instead. And this only applies early in the game. Late in the game, you're going to be pinch hitting, so walking Armas is very dangerous with a suped up PH coming in. BTW I always keep 2 PHs with Boston (curve pitching).

Armas is a base clogger. Bat him 1st or 2nd, and if he gets on, it's strictly station to station.

[TbT]

burks leads off, armas 2nd, hendu 8th

[Nacho]

How can anyone bat Armas 8th?  Then, when he comes up with two outs, you have the pitcher to contend with and you can simply put him on base (though I guess I should assume intentional walks are illegal in straight pitch?).

That's fine with me. I'd rather lead off the inning with my leadoff guy anyway. Actually there was a study on MLB saying walking #8 to get to the pitcher isn't the best strategy, because you hit the top of the order the innning after. It's better to get to the top of the order with 1 out instead. And this only applies early in the game. Late in the game, you're going to be pinch hitting, so walking Armas is very dangerous with a suped up PH coming in. BTW I always keep 2 PHs with Boston (curve pitching).

Armas is a base clogger. Bat him 1st or 2nd, and if he gets on, it's strictly station to station.

Well put.  It's something to think about, but I don't like to take the chance of putting such a slow runner yet great power hitter on base, even if it means getting to the top of my lineup in the next inning.  I think Boston's strength lies at the back of the lineup anyway.