PLAYER POSITION LIST
All positions must be represented for your starting 8 position players.
C
JBench RHB 26 945 120 C
Cmpnla RHB 12 885 120 C
Tenace RHB 33 870 120 C
JTorre RHB 16 870 120 C
YBerra LHB 17 813 120 C
C.Fisk RHB 16 810 120 C
JDavis RHB 28 801 120 C
Munson RHB 17 783 120 C
Lmbrdi RHB 9 780 120 C
Cochrn LHB 14 765 120 C
HAshby LHB 16 750 124 C
Crndal RHB 23 750 120 C
Simmns LHB 14 750 120 C
DRader LHB 23 705 120 C
1B
McGwir RHB 21 975 124 1B
Adcock RHB 24 975 120 1B
McCovy LHB 12 921 132 1B
TPerez RHB 18 915 124 1B
J.Foxx RHB 9 915 138 1B
Gehrig LHB 10 909 132 1B
GDavis RHB 33 900 124 1B
WClark LHB 20 900 124 1B
Cepeda RHB 11 885 132 1B
Mtngly LHB 10 855 128 1B
BTerry LHB 6 795 120 1B
J.Mize LHB 9 789 124 1B
Drissn LHB 22 765 142 1B
Watson RHB 24 750 128 1B
Cvrtta LHB 8 705 132 1B
2B
Johnsn RHB 40 975 124 2B
Hrnsby RHB 0 855 136 2B
DLopes RHB 24 810 146 2B
JRbnsn RHB 12 795 140 2B
Morgan LHB 14 795 144 2B
DGreen RHB 30 765 128 2B
Doran LHB 28 765 136 2B
Sndbrg RHB 14 765 144 2B
Rizuto RHB 16 735 136 2B
Lnsfrd RHB 18 735 136 2B
Fuente LHB 30 720 136 2B
Trillo RHB 24 705 132 2B
StvSax RHB 9 705 142 2B
SS
EBanks RHB 17 945 124 SS
D.Thon RHB 30 810 136 SS
Cmpnrs RHB 26 795 144 SS
AlDark RHB 20 795 132 SS
Doerr RHB 18 795 124 SS
Cronin RHB 14 780 124 SS
Lazzri RHB 14 759 136 SS
PReese RHB 18 750 138 SS
Cncptn RHB 22 750 138 SS
Rmirez RHB 30 735 142 SS
Logan RHB 21 735 128 SS
Mrnvil RHB 36 705 146 SS
OSmith LHB 29 705 144 SS
MWills LHB 18 705 146 SS
Burlsn RHB 26 705 136 SS
3B
Mathws LHB 18 930 124 3B
Horner RHB 18 915 128 3B
JClark RHB 23 870 122 3B
RonCey RHB 26 855 120 3B
Nettls LHB 28 831 120 3B
SBando RHB 24 825 124 3B
RSanto RHB 21 825 124 3B
Garvey RHB 13 810 124 3B
Durham LHB 26 795 136 3B
WBoggs LHB 0 780 128 3B
KBoyer RHB 14 765 128 3B
Wallng LHB 17 750 128 3B
Cabell RHB 18 735 128 3B
P.Rose LHB 7 735 120 3B
H.Groh RHB 20 735 142 3B
S.Hack LHB 16 705 142 3B
Brown RHB 13 705 136 3B
LF
Kingmn RHB 32 975 120 LF
Foster LHB 16 945 124 LF
J.Rice RHB 16 903 120 LF
Bwilms LHB 12 870 124 LF
Twilms LHB 2 870 132 LF
Yazstr LHB 13 867 124 LF
Winfld RHB 21 825 130 LF
DEvans RHB 22 813 122 LF
Medwck RHB 8 795 124 LF
J.Rudi RHB 20 780 124 LF
K.Bass LHB 16 780 138 LF
J.Cruz LHB 26 765 138 LF
Lbrock LHB 16 765 148 LF
Speakr LHB 7 759 144 LF
Garr LHB 16 735 136 LF
Hndrsn RHB 13 705 148 LF
M.Mota RHB 14 705 132 LF
CF
Wilson RHB 10 975 120 CF
Mantle LHB 13 924 132 CF
W.Mays RHB 6 915 140 CF
DMurphy RHB 20 900 128 CF
DwMurphy LHB 33 885 128 CF
Snider LHB 10 885 132 CF
Dmggio RHB 14 885 124 CF
Bbonds RHB 18 855 146 CF
F.Lynn LHB 11 840 132 CF
Cedeno RHB 14 795 142 CF
Hatchr RHB 14 759 142 CF
Flood RHB 13 735 132 CF
WDavis LHB 14 735 144 CF
Pinson LHB 8 735 140 CF
McGee LHB 18 720 140 CF
Colman LHB 26 690 148 CF
RF
RMaris LHB 26 975 120 RF
Cnseco RHB 26 945 128 RF
Dawson RHB 22 945 136 RF
B.Ruth LHB 6 933 124 RF
Aaron RHB 13 930 132 RF
Jacksn LHB 21 915 136 RF
MelOtt LHB 10 903 128 RF
FRbnsn RHB 9 885 142 RF
Musial LHB 10 855 124 RF
Guerro RHB 13 855 132 RF
T.Puhl LHB 30 750 136 RF
J.Alou RHB 21 720 132 RF
Griffy LHB 13 705 142 RF
STARTING PITCHERS
NAME T SNK SNK-SP CRV-SP FB-SP CRV-R CRV-L STA U1 U2
V.Blue LO 6 166 180 189 12 8 38 113 143
Hunter RO 6 140 166 184 13 9 41 113 119
N.Ryan RO 2 146 184 213 8 6 40 105 144
MScott RO 14 170 170 184 7 4 30 115 142
WSpahn LO 13 173 173 186 3 6 44 114 143
PNikro RO 15 146 160 173 13 7 48 115 141
Gibson RO 3 153 173 196 7 4 44 113 143
Tudor LO 8 180 180 193 11 6 40 114 142
Sutclf RO 6 153 173 190 9 4 44 115 140
Jenkns RO 7 153 166 184 6 10 38 111 114
Koufax LO 3 153 176 197 2 8 46 110 115
Drysdl RO 5 146 160 182 7 3 40 141 146
Marchl RO 4 153 173 193 13 3 48 141 143
GPerry RO 13 120 146 173 5 3 48 113 143
M.Soto RO 3 160 180 200 5 2 38 115 141
Waltrs RO 5 126 146 166 14 10 56 117 139
Tiant RO 2 166 182 198 5 2 40 116 142
Clemns RO 4 166 186 200 5 6 40 114 139
W.Ford LO 12 140 160 180 6 10 36 112 116
Guidry LO 4 146 170 197 3 6 36 116 142
RELIEF PITCHERS
Fingrs RO 14 166 166 178 7 3 15 112 128
LGrove LO 4 166 186 200 5 7 12 114 142
JNikro RO 15 133 162 173 12 10 35 116 140
Richrd RO 2 160 186 202 4 2 18 112 143
Burdet RO 8 166 173 180 7 5 17 112 144
Garber RS 4 153 166 193 6 9 12 109 112
DzDean RO 6 160 170 180 9 6 18 116 140
Worrel RO 8 166 177 189 12 7 12 114 143
Sutter RO 14 166 173 184 5 3 20 114 141
LSmith RO 2 146 184 200 4 2 12 112 143
Sutton RO 5 133 166 178 6 5 20 113 143
Vlnzla LO 10 140 166 180 12 8 24 115 142
Hubbel LS 12 153 170 184 4 6 16 115 142
McCrmk LO 2 160 178 197 2 5 15 115 138
Gullet LO 14 153 160 173 4 7 22 114 116
Borbon RO 14 166 166 186 5 2 18 116 143
Young RO 12 130 152 176 6 4 28 115 141
Radatz RO 2 160 186 200 4 2 15 115 141
Rghtti LO 3 140 173 194 5 7 12 115 141
Gossge RO 2 173 186 202 4 2 18 116 141
Some of these choices seem odd. Doug Rader played 1405 games in the majors. ZERO at catcher.
Quote from: Shooty on 09/03/18, 04:16:48 PM
Some of these choices seem odd. Doug Rader played 1405 games in the majors. ZERO at catcher.
Dave Rader: https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/raderda01.shtml
Quote from: Darky on 09/03/18, 04:23:08 PM
Quote from: Shooty on 09/03/18, 04:16:48 PM
Some of these choices seem odd. Doug Rader played 1405 games in the majors. ZERO at catcher.
Dave Rader: https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/raderda01.shtml
My bad. I assumed that the only team shitty enough to have Rader playing for them was the Astros who had Doug Rader.
Dave Rader is a weird fucking choice for the Giants all-time catcher.
Draft day tomorrow - should be exciting and fascinating. I'm sure there'll be some surprise picks and I'm expecting most of that from Ryno if he goes wild card again. We'll cover 2½ rounds tomorrow and will have 5 rounds done by Friday. The Empire is doing last minute scouting on the rest of the players we want to have a look at, so we'll be ready and there'll be no slip ups this draft. I wonder how far off my mock draft will be which is guided by past drafts.
I considered Ernie Banks in the first round/first pick since he's a SS with crazy pop and has gigantic distance from the rest of the SS's. Tempo will have good options in the middle rounds since he got that pick out of the way and in a positive way. After thinking about Banks, I couldn't stop thinking about Hack Wilson :love:
In a 18-game season, Banks is projected to hit between 620 to 660 and should yield 18-24 HRs. I have 91 simulated at-bats of him against all the pitchers. Can't argue with Tempo's pick even if he passed up on 975 power.
I thought Banks would fall to the 7th or 8th pick. Assumed nobody would pass up on 975 power and perhaps Bench would go before Banks.
Banks is a good pick at #2. Wilson is a bad pick at #1.
Quote from: Nacho on 09/05/18, 04:48:35 PM
Banks is a good pick at #2. Wilson is a bad pick at #1.
lol, don't let him hear that! His five feet and 195 pound frame with an 18-inch neck will find you and beat you whether he's severely drunk or not. He's the type of player to resurrect the Empire - very combative and we'll look the other way with his excessive alcohol consumption. All fighting with opposing team players/coaches and with hecklers in the stands will be encouraged. He's gonna be a triple crown winner this year and should be near 30 jacks with his 10 contact and 975 power ... and impressive neck shaft.
They don't make them like they used to! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hack_Wilson
Banks was #1 on my draft board. Darky fucked up.
I'm only drafting players named Jody, Jody Davis catcher extraordinaire (sung to the tune of Davy Davy Crockett king of the wild frontier)
Quote from: Shooty on 09/05/18, 06:05:22 PM
Banks was #1 on my draft board. Darky fucked up.
I don't recall you having a draft that yielded a championship and two trips to the finals...meat. :D Win the big one and then you can bark!
GDavis has to be torn between Marris, Ruth, Mantle, and Kingman!
Does this league have the standard 10 run slaughter rule?
Quote from: ultimate7 on 09/05/18, 09:14:56 PM
Does this league have the standard 10 run slaughter rule?
I trialed a 15-run mercy rule for the summer classic tournament to see how that would play out. With the firepower in the Arcade version, teams will have a good chance to prolong games and mount a comeback since there'll be some big innings. I am considering a 13 or 15-run mercy rule for the season. A 10-run mercy rule seems too little for this league. I have no issues doing the extra scoring.
i don't think darky should be able to talk trash after the 8 shenanigans hes pulled in he past 6 weeks, many of which are heavy weak sauce
or as reds would say, he's putting ketchup all over our breakfast
Field a playoff team and win the big one for once ... then talk ... sucka! The Empire is coming...
Good pick btw, Bench is gonna mash strong.
Quote from: Darky on 09/06/18, 08:25:17 AM
Field a playoff team and win the big one for once ... then talk ... sucka! The Empire is coming...
Good pick btw, Bench is gonna mash strong.
I think this is what nomaaa is talking about. You don't get to talk trash after you've given yourself the first pick (and botched it, btw).
How does one botch the best hitter in the league by a mile?! Yeah, yeah, you guys are experts now :D Feel free to run a league and put in all the work and then set up rules for trash talking :thumbsup:
deflect deflect deflect
Didn't think Roger Hornsby would go so early. I'm assuming Nacho meant him by posting that pic of Hornsby beer.
Quote from: Darky on 09/06/18, 08:52:03 AM
Didn't think Roger Hornsby would go so early. I'm assuming Nacho meant him by posting that pic of Hornsby beer.
If Nacho's plan goes as planned and I'm sure all our draft plans will unfold just as we envisioned, then I sure want to see how his roster pans out. Hornsby will always hit at his 855 power with good speed. He should hit from .570 to .610 with 12-16 HRs from what I see from 95 simulated at-bats.
Positional scarcity + good power + good speed + perfect contact. He's got everything I'm looking for in a leadoff hitter. There will still be 900+ power guys left in the next round or two.
There will be at your spot, and judging by how the draft is going, we could see a 900+ guy fall to the 4th round. I was hoping Hornsby would have fell to me by the second round.
Quote from: Darky on 09/06/18, 09:38:14 AM
There will be at your spot, and judging by how the draft is going, we could see a 900+ guy fall to the 4th round. I was hoping Hornsby would have fell to me by the second round. I was going to go the seemingly logical direction that most have taken so far, but after seeing what Hack Wilson can do, I couldn't pass up on a guy who can more than make up for a weak spot in the lineup.
There was absolutely no chance that was going to happen. If I hadn't drafted him, I'd have been shocked if he made it past pick 11 or 12.
Quote from: Darky on 09/06/18, 09:38:14 AM
There will be at your spot, and judging by how the draft is going, we could see a 900+ guy fall to the 4th round. I was hoping Hornsby would have fell to me by the second round.
I was going to go the seemingly logical direction that most have taken so far, but after seeing what Hack Wilson can do, I couldn't pass up on a guy who can more than make up for a weak spot in the lineup.
Quote from: Nacho on 09/06/18, 09:40:58 AM
There was absolutely no chance that was going to happen. If I hadn't drafted him, I'd have been shocked if he made it past pick 11 or 12.
Tempo probably would have grabbed him. I can't argue with that pick there. There's no way he'll hit under .500 even in a bad year or have under 10 homeruns. He'll score crazy runs with his OBP and speed.
Hornsby is an interesting choice.
The weird thing about this draft is these 975 hitters. Does having an extra 30 points necessarily mean you will hit more homers than a 945 guy or just that their homers will go further?
I think I'm still going to lean towards picking say a 930 hitter with good speed over a 975 hitter with a 120 speed rating.
Quote from: Shooty on 09/06/18, 09:45:40 AM
Hornsby is an interesting choice.
The weird thing about this draft is these 975 hitters. Does having an extra 30 points necessarily mean you will hit more homers than a 945 guy or just that their homers will go further?
I think I'm still going to lean towards picking say a 930 hitter with good speed over a 975 hitter with a 120 speed rating.
Depending on the contact rating, most will hit more and hit for a higher average. And of course, exit velocity is lightning fast on some homers and the oppo power is insane. Hack hit 27 HRs with a .747 average in 87 at-bats while E.Banks hit 19 HRs with a .626 average in 91 at-bats for my simulations against all the pitchers (had my scout roms). Maybe D.Jonhson and Dave Kingman will be outhit in homeruns and average by some guys with higher contact and a +920 power - just guessing depending on how the games may go as far as individual performances go in 18 lottery type games when you consider the contact-power relationship.
If you guys remember, you take contact multiplied by 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, and 0 ... then subtract those 6 different field totals from the power numbers. I generally just take the average and multiply 3 by the contact number and subtract that from the power total. When you multiple by 6 and compare some players, you get a different picture, but how many times will a player hit with the worst contact in 80+ at-bats in a 18-game season?
Back to the hits and bombs by the 975 guys :o
hornsby was on my short list
Quote from: nomaaa on 09/06/18, 10:04:27 AM
hornsby was on my short list
How short was he?
it's an under-6ft list
I was thinking that Ryno was going to go Ruth. I didn't scout Ruth, but can only assume he'll hit over .630 and have at least 20 homeruns. From what I saw while scouting other players, he pretty much hits everything. 6 contact and a 930 power rating. His worst power rating will be (933-6*6) 897 and the average power rating is 915 (933-6*3).
Draft sticky per Darky's request
Thanks Gantry!
Shooty's pick wasn't a surprise and it was a solid one.
Mays will be interesting to see this season with that great contact-power-speed ratio.
Mays was very high on my draft board. Love his combo of contact/speed/power. He's like Raines but on even more crack.
I strongly considered Mays at 6. Other good power guys available at that position, though. None as good as Mays, but good options nonetheless.
yeah that's a really good pick. i was bummed i'm not drafting a little lower to make sense of it
Mays underperformed from what I saw when scouting players on the Giants and other teams, but he's still gonna have a significant impact obviously. I don't have the stats to back up my statement, so I could be off here since I didn't personally record his stats over the span of 18 games on super-speed. And of course, the next set of 18 games for the season will be much different than what I ran. When I scouted sim games on my roms, I'd split the stats from 9 games against a set of SP's with the other set of SP's. Some players had peak and valley splits, but the ones with very low contact had similar splits.
So we are caught up on the picks now. Ryno has another half hour to make his two picks, then he's skipped, correct?
It sucks getting skipped this early but every one has known this draft schedule for a long time now.
I'm sure that ryno will show up to make his three selections just before his time has expired.
My vote is we wait for Ryno
You can wait as long as you want, but I'm picking at 3 pm.
I just pm'd him on FB. The schedule for the draft has been out for a while, so that's that. I'd hate to see a skip happen specifically at his position with back-to-back picks coming up.
So damn, Ryno just grabbed two guys with 975 power! :o Maris and McGwire will not underperform from what I've seen, especially Maris from the lefthand side.
Boom goes the dynamite.
Those 2 bats are just as powerful as Davey Johnson's
Sorry for the delay fellas....I'm at work and have to on my phone for dee-nee and have to have a break in having customers.
Quote from: ryno on 09/06/18, 02:36:37 PM
Sorry for the delay fellas....I'm at work and have to on my phone for dee-nee and have to have a break in having customers.
No worries man, you got your picks in just at the nick of time! Shit man, that could be 50 homeruns from those two this year.
Horner can hit - no odd glitches with him as far as underperforming. There was no way he was getting past Ultimate.
I drafted those 2 so I could laugh t mcgwire while he uncomfortably hugs maris' family after each HR
It is pretty amazing that the arcade version predicted that McGwire would break the record.
Given a choice, I would have gone Mantle instead of Mays from, I know-I know since I've said it already, what I've seen in my scouting simulation games. He has that over-performance glitch. I wish Nitewulf could get deeper into the code and find those hidden glitches where the creators boosted their favorite players. ;D
Quote from: ryno on 09/06/18, 02:44:40 PM
I drafted those 2 so I could laugh t mcgwire while he uncomfortably hugs maris' family after each HR
haha, that's awesome! And Sosa would be at a distance with a sad boy look through a hard to see window.
I almost went Foster instead of Mantle but Mantle has better brand name appeal.
RBI has Foster batting left when he was right handed IRL. Nice little bonus for fighton.
I vote for skipping ryno
To be fair. I wasn't going to skip Ryno. I was just skipping ultimate.
I don't appreciate this cock blocking going on, fuck. We had our eyes on Ted Williams and I was certain he'd fall to me :(
foxx is nice tho
Yeah, no worries. Foxx and Hammerin' Hank fell to me. The Empire will have 3 players with at least 25 homeruns 8) They should all hit over .650.
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Dale Murphy was a mostly blind pick. That pick was made in under 90 seconds whilst sitting on the shitter at Orange Theory right before my workout
i was hoping dawson would drop a couple more
Seems like Tempo revolutionized the drafting method imo. When GDavis passes up on crazy power, it's very shocking. He took Jim Rice (16C/903P) and that selection fits into what he is doing, even if Rice underperforms his ratings. I say that because he only hit 10 HR's with a .551 average in 87 at-bats. He had very interesting splits from two different sets of SP's when I ran him through all the teams on my scout rom - 24/46 8 HR and 24/41 2 HR. Weird since I was expecting more HRs and a higher average with his 16 contact and 900 power. Then again, maybe he didn't enjoy the 2-hole I had him in. Don't get me wrong, those are good numbers, but I think the creators glitched him somewhere deep in the hidden code.
Another player similar in performance to him is Roy Campanella (12C/885P). Camp went 44-92 (.532) with 15 HR's where the splits were 4HR and 11HR. I can't say for sure since I didn't scout Torre, but from what I saw everytime I saw Torre hit, he was always getting hits and launching bombs.
Anyways, those simulations don't mean automatic replication since the stats can vary dramatically in even 3 games in under 90 at-bats in a 18-game season, but those are the numbers I recorded in my scout rom. I'm still convinced that a player thrives better in some hitting spots than others - has to be something in the code.
i have no idea what you're trying to say with all 700 of those words
Quote from: nomaaa on 09/07/18, 08:13:27 AM
i have no idea what you're trying to say with all 700 of those words
Nice, here's your award.
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you could just clarify
Torre hits just as good as Camp and Rice didn't hit too many bombs on my scout rom when I simulated against all the teams and different starting pitchers. I forgot what else I wrote and no way I read those fuckton of words again. :D
I'm going to pick in a few minutes...only because I'm taking an LF and fighton already has one.
Quote from: Shooty on 09/07/18, 09:57:20 AM
I'm going to pick in a few minutes...only because I'm taking an LF and fighton already has one.
Go for it. Fighton will move into your slot only for his next pick and after that, it's anything goes. I just messaged him on FB and if anyone has his cell, send the word.
Duke Snider is listed as available but should be crossed out.
Quote from: Nacho on 09/07/18, 11:01:56 AM
Duke Snider is listed as available but should be crossed out.
Fixed!
Also, would be funny if Ryno took another RF and 1B and then I took a combo of those two for my next two picks! Man would the trade calls come in a fury :D Hope you guys get your guys before the 8th round in case somebody might want to weaken ya'll! Didn't Tempo do that to Nacho last draft?! ;D
Quote from: Darky on 09/07/18, 11:05:59 AM
Quote from: Nacho on 09/07/18, 11:01:56 AM
Duke Snider is listed as available but should be crossed out.
Fixed!
Also, would be funny if Ryno took another RF and 1B and then I took a combo of those two for my next two picks! Man would the trade calls come in a fury :D Hope you guys get your guys before the 8th round in case somebody might want to weaken ya'll! Didn't Tempo do that to Nacho last draft?! ;D
He tried to stick me with the worst SS, but in the end I prevailed by getting the SECOND worst SS. 8)
Nacho takes a prototypical leadoff hitter. Nice.
I was going to take him if people were going to sit on the RF position. Imagine that bench power and leverage for a trade ... and the TWITCH!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfIfYkuJSMY
Will take the chat here since I only like to use the draft thread for draft picks and not lollygagging.
Quote from: ryno on 09/07/18, 04:52:37 PM
That's total fake news. Alvin is as white as a ghost........
lol! The creators give him a boost glitch somewhere in the hidden code. I simmed all the SS's, and he was the surprising gem. Al Dark
y hit .542 with 9 HR's in 18 games. And he outperformed all the other SS's and 3B men by a mile, as well as all the second baseman. Jackie Robinson was consistent and will give me a .500 mark with some pop in HR's and triples. Jackie outperformed all the other second basemen by a decent margin. Lopes high contact kills him if anyone was wondering - he may touch .420 if he's has a good year, but he'll have some pop.
Starting Monday, make sure some of you get proxies and to check the draft schedule because I won't allow any more elbow room. I won't be laptop accessible on any given moment and that means I can't promise to pm some of you on FB for a reminder next week due to work. If your time runs out and somebody goes ahead and drafts, then that's how it'll be. If you get skipped twice, then don't say you weren't warned. Drafts usually slow down after the first week simply because people take their own sweet time, but now I just gave the lowdown.
Was really hoping Lyn would fall to me. GDavis was the only one who selects before me who still needed a CF.
Quote from: Nacho on 09/07/18, 06:13:39 PM
Was really hoping Lyn would fall to me. GDavis was the only one who selects before me who still needed a CF.
Yeah, I didn't want to get stuck with an ass CF either. Manfreddy, you and Beef really could have fucked me there, but luckily you went for Canseco.
I would have taken Canseco. He'll make up for the different between Cedano and Lynn. I haven't seen much of those guys since I took Hack first and thus didn't bother to scout them, but I may run some sims to see how that plays out over 18 games. Then again, maybe not. My head is really dizzy from all the sims :stupid:
just look at this badass motherfucker
Since BeefMaster got skipped, ryno only has one pick to make until Beefy makes another selection. (He just picked two.)
I guess BeefMaster already has a LF though, so it shouldn't be a problem.
Quote from: Nacho on 09/07/18, 08:18:29 PM
Since BeefMaster got skipped, ryno only has one pick to make until Beefy makes another selection. (He just picked two.)
Correct. His pick isn't official until 9pm should Beef show up and cock block him before 9pm. Only one pick Ryno. And if Beef doesn't make his pick by Monday at 9am, he gets skipped and thus Ryno can make his second pick.
Quote from: Nacho on 09/07/18, 08:19:29 PM
I guess BeefMaster already has a LF though, so it shouldn't be a problem.
True, so I'll allow it unless Beef magically decides he wants Brock.
So draft is on hold until Monday...or people can pick, as long as no one gets skipped?
fucking beef master slow cooking his picks rn
Quote from: Shooty on 09/08/18, 08:12:04 AM
So draft is on hold until Monday...or people can pick, as long as no one gets skipped?
No reason not to do it this way
I'm ready to pick, but my guess is ultimate won't be on this weekend.
Didn't ultimate already pick?
Or did he pick last night then delete it because BeefMaster still hadn't picked?
Nevermind, he made his 5th round pick last night, not his 6th.
Pick away if we all agree to get the next round out of the way. for this weekend. No time limit as well and then I can readjust the time schedule for next week. The problem is I doubt Ultimate, Fighton, and Beef will log on - maybe they will tomorrow with football Sunday tomorrow. Text or FB message them. If we can get Ultimate to make his pick, we should be able to ko this next round.
Would a group text work? I don't mind doing it....send me your number via IM
Quote from: Darky on 09/08/18, 10:14:39 AM
Pick away if we all agree to get the next round out of the way. for this weekend. No time limit as well and then I can readjust the time schedule for next week. The problem is I doubt Ultimate, Fighton, and Beef will log on - maybe they will tomorrow with football Sunday tomorrow. Text or FB message them. If we can get Ultimate to make his pick, we should be able to ko this next round.
I can check periodically during the rest of the weekend - that's no problem. I just don't always think to check in during the day when I'm not at my computer.
Gotta say even before Shooty's last pick, but he's having a brilliant draft! lol, that means he'll more than likely force Beef to draft a RF and thus leave GDavis with Terry 'dee nee' Puhl and all of his 30C/750P :D Remember when GDavis was gloating over skipping over on Canseco's twitch?! ;D :D
Shooty got a crazy steal with the Iron Horse and he's a quantum leap from the remaining first basemen (GDavis/Donnie Baseball). Gehrig hit .600 with 23 HR in 95 at-bats in my scout simulations, and he could very well hit higher in a good season.
Also, Ryno got good value with Brock. He'll outperform his 16/765 rating from what my scouting report tells me - same with Sandberg. Ryno has 2 guys who'll steal bases as well and they'll have some surprise pop.
Quote from: Darky on 09/09/18, 03:16:04 AM
Gotta say even before Shooty's last pick, but he's having a brilliant draft! lol, that means he'll more than likely force Beef to draft a RF and thus leave GDavis with Terry 'dee nee' Puhl and all of his 30C/750P :D Remember when GDavis was gloating over skipping over on Canseco's twitch?! ;D :D
:thumbsup:
All I needed was a SS, 2B and C. And the remaining players all seem to be equally worthless. So I figured a big bat off the bench was the best strategy, in terms of making my team better and fucking up another team. Win-win!
Is there any rule keeping me from batting the pitcher 8th? It works for Joe Maddon, it will work for me.
Quote from: ryno on 09/09/18, 02:53:47 PM
Is there any rule keeping me from batting the pitcher 8th? It works for Joe Maddon, it will work for me.
i don't think there's an editor that can make this happen
Looks like a team will be without a decent first baseman. that will be tough since almost everyone has a 900+ guy at that spot.
Quote from: nomaaa on 09/09/18, 02:54:29 PM
Quote from: ryno on 09/09/18, 02:53:47 PM
Is there any rule keeping me from batting the pitcher 8th? It works for Joe Maddon, it will work for me.
i don't think there's an editor that can make this happen
I believe you are correct.
Quote from: Shooty on 09/09/18, 03:04:33 PM
Looks like a team will be without a decent first baseman. that will be tough since almost everyone has a 900+ guy at that spot.
haha, I have some things to think about for my next two picks! Some people struck when the time was right, that's for sure!
GDavis giving Nacho shit about taking Canseco early - that'll go down in FRBI lore! ;D :thumbsup:
Did he give me shit about it?
Quote from: Nacho on 09/09/18, 04:12:55 PM
Did he give me shit about it?
GDavis = Cunted! I guess he preferred an ass RF! Dee Nee PUHL!
Quote from: Nacho on 09/07/18, 06:13:39 PM
Was really hoping Lyn would fall to me. GDavis was the only one who selects before me who still needed a CF.
Quote from: GDavis on 09/07/18, 06:20:41 PM
Yeah, I didn't want to get stuck with an ass CF either. Manfreddy, you and Beef really could have fucked me there, but luckily you went for Canseco.
i thought he genuinely felt lucky
He was being nice and had the humble mask on, but he was pretty much saying Nacho was an idiot if you read in between the lines. GDavis might not make a draft pick again, haha - he's gotta be really bitter.
Don't worry. I offered gdavis one of my rfs in a trade. He's not going to like it but if he does the math he'll do it. The remaining rfs are unbelievably shitty.
As I did in the last two times I ran a FRBI league, there'll be a 2-week window for trades in the middle of the season. The players people draft, those are the players to carry you until the middle of the season when the trade window will be open for two slates of season play.
And I don't know how much longer I can stay up, but after the second wave of football games are done, I'm gonna turn it in. So if Tempo drafts and I'm not here, then I won't be able to get my draft pick in the next 3 hours...unless he picks in that time span. I'll reschedule the draft for this week before you guys get up and when I'm up early tomorrow morning.
Quote from: Darky on 09/09/18, 05:34:00 PM
As I did in the last two times I ran a FRBI league, there'll be a 2-week window for trades in the middle of the season. The players people draft, those are the players to carry you until the middle of the season when the trade window will be open for two slates of season play.
Whoa! Where was that written? Its not on the rules post. In fact you had recently mentioned drafting a player to use as trade bait:
Quote from: Darky on 09/07/18, 12:32:18 PM
I was going to take him if people were going to sit on the RF position. Imagine that bench power and leverage for a trade ... and the TWITCH!
You should be allowed to trade before the season, otherwise it should have been mentioned.
Are we also allowed to hit "reset" if we are looking a game we think we should be winning?
Shooty, true in that it should have been made official before the draft - my bad. I did mention it, but it was in the throwing ideas out there phase before the draft.
I''ll come up with a trade policy at some point today. It'll be a real short window after the draft and before the season. Then the trading closes shut until midseason.
The draft schedule has been changed for the rest of the draft. Please look.
The rest of the draft is going to be pretty uneventful. Lots of low power guys left and no one really knows who the good and bad pitchers are besides maybe Darky having some idea.
Should we double up picks for rounds 13-16 at least?
Quote from: Shooty on 09/10/18, 07:04:03 AM
The rest of the draft is going to be pretty uneventful. Lots of low power guys left and no one really knows who the good and bad pitchers are besides maybe Darky having some idea.
Should we double up picks for rounds 13-16 at least?
Absolutely no double picks.
I've scouted all the pitchers on my simulations and jotted down some numbers from their performances against all the teams with the current players drafted as well as a guesstimate for where the other players may go. There is no Doc Gooden type of advantage, but Drysdale is close enough from the 27 games I simmed him with. I have a good idea about some others, and that's all I can say about that.
fyi i changed johnny bench's power from 945 to 975. darky please make note of this change
I have a trade to announce. Darky should I post now or hold off?
Quote from: Shooty on 09/10/18, 01:54:39 PM
I have a trade to announce. Darky should I post now or hold off?
Wait until after the draft.
It involves an uneven number of players so a pick kind of needs to be involved. Why do we have to wait until after the draft?
I sent you the trade anyway Darky. You decide the best course of action.
Joe Neikro has crazy stamina for a reliever.
I had to choose between having a serviceable C and SS over the starters / relievers I wanted.
Niekro, spahn, Neikro were my top 3
Quote from: Shooty on 09/10/18, 02:02:14 PM
I sent you the trade anyway Darky. You decide the best course of action.
Post the trade details for me here and it's approved.
Shooty trades 2 hall of famers, Stan the Man and Ernie Lombardi to GDavis for a career .241 hitter, Gene Tenace and a 16th round pick.
BLOCKBUSTER
Quote from: Shooty on 09/10/18, 02:36:48 PM
Shooty trades 2 hall of famers, Stan the Man and Ernie Lombardi to GDavis for a career .241 hitter, Gene Tenace and a 16th round pick.
Musial will take 7th round slot in this trade. So GDavis won't have a pick in round 7 due to the uneven trade and considering Musial's value. You will take his last pick in the last round. Those are the conditions now that I am back home from work and had a chance to think about it. You two have until Musial's/Gdavis draft slot in the 7th round to call it off. Those are the final conditions and there'll be no negotiating that.
Quote from: Darky on 09/10/18, 03:00:00 PM
Quote from: Shooty on 09/10/18, 02:36:48 PM
Shooty trades 2 hall of famers, Stan the Man and Ernie Lombardi to GDavis for a career .241 hitter, Gene Tenace and a 16th round pick.
Musial will take 7th round slot in this trade. So GDavis won't have a pick in round 7 due to the uneven trade and considering Musial's value. You will take his last pick in the last round. Those are the conditions now that I am back home from work and had a chance to think about it. You two have until Musial's/Gdavis draft slot in the 7th round to call it off. Those are the final conditions and there'll be no negotiating that.
What? How does that math work? There's two players on one side and one player and one draft pick on another. How does GDavis lose a pick?
Quote from: Darky on 09/10/18, 03:00:00 PM
Quote from: Shooty on 09/10/18, 02:36:48 PM
Shooty trades 2 hall of famers, Stan the Man and Ernie Lombardi to GDavis for a career .241 hitter, Gene Tenace and a 16th round pick.
Musial will take 7th round slot in this trade. So GDavis won't have a pick in round 7 due to the uneven trade and considering Musial's value. You will take his last pick in the last round. Those are the conditions now that I am back home from work and had a chance to think about it. You two have until Musial's/Gdavis draft slot in the 7th round to call it off. Those are the final conditions and there'll be no negotiating that.
That makes no sense at all. Why does GDavis lose his 7th round pick? There's no logic to that all. Also how is it an uneven trade? For who? Both teams become better from the trade. Taking the 7th round pick from GDavis just makes it look like you are now afraid he is planning to draft someone that is on your short list.
Also didn't he already make his 7th round pick?
Look at it this way Darky.
The trade was essentially Musial and a 7th pick for Tenace and a 16th pick. (I just used the 7th round pick to draft Lombardi for GDavis).
That seems fair considering Tenace was drafted in the second round and Musial in the 6th. Taking away GDavis' 7th pick now arbitrarily just puts things out of whack.
You're better than this (?)
Quote from: Nacho on 09/10/18, 03:01:37 PM
What? How does that math work? There's two players on one side and one player and one draft pick on another. How does GDavis lose a pick?
GDavs obtained 2 players and gave up his last pick to Shooty. Musial had to fill a slot and with his value, he takes the
8th round slot which is pick 78.
My bad, I made an error by saying 7th round.
Idiotic.
We'll just wait until after the draft then and do the same trade. I'll just tell GDavis who to pick in round 16 for me.
What does Musial's value have to do with you taking a pick away from him?
Quote from: Darky on 09/10/18, 03:07:37 PM
Quote from: Nacho on 09/10/18, 03:01:37 PM
What? How does that math work? There's two players on one side and one player and one draft pick on another. How does GDavis lose a pick?
GDavs obtained 2 players and gave up his last pick to Shooty. Musial had to fill a slot and with his value, he takes the 8th round slot which is pick 78.
My bad, I made an error by saying 7th round.
Again, you do realize Tenace was drafted 4 rounds before Musial and that Tenace is the more valuable player when taking position into account, right?
Why not just take away my 9th round pick for the hell of it? Makes just as much/little sense.
If anything, this trade is skewed toward Shooty, not GDavis.
16th pick goes to Shooty - not the 8th.
Quote from: GDavis on 09/10/18, 03:14:43 PM
16th pick goes to Shooty - not the 8th.
Yes. We all agree (apart from Darky). I think we're all prepared to ignore his ruling and carry on.
cool
I explained the conditions and that's final. I advised to wait until after the draft if you recall.
Quote from: GDavis on 09/10/18, 03:14:43 PM
16th pick goes to Shooty - not the 8th.
Yes, he gets that last pick, but Musial will take the 78th spot in your draft order. Shooty has made his 8th round pick. You are not losing a draft pick since you got an extra player in the deal.
If I am reading this correctly, Darky just is trying to figure out where to put the new player in the existing draft list.
You guys should just cancel the trade. This makes no sense.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 09/10/18, 03:22:47 PM
If I am reading this correctly, Darky just is trying to figure out where to put the new player in the existing draft list.
That's specified as part of the trade. It's actually kind of key to the whole trade.
Quote from: Darky on 09/10/18, 03:20:41 PM
I explained the conditions and that's final. I advised to wait until after the draft if you recall.
Quote from: GDavis on 09/10/18, 03:14:43 PM
16th pick goes to Shooty - not the 8th.
Yes, he gets that last pick, but Musial will take the 78th spot in your draft order. Shooty has made his 8th round pick. You are not losing a draft pick since you got an extra player in the deal.
But if you do that, where does the lost pick go?
You seriously either don't understand logic or you are trying to purposely fuck up the deal.
Look, you already approved the deal over PM. If your brain doesn't understand how things work, GDavis and I will just do it after the draft so its simpler for you.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 09/10/18, 03:22:47 PM
If I am reading this correctly, Darky just is trying to figure out where to put the new player in the existing draft list.
Quote from: Nacho on 09/10/18, 03:23:54 PM
That's specified as part of the trade. It's actually kind of key to the whole trade.
There you go! They can still cancel and they have until GDavis' slot in this 8th round to reverse the trade and wait until after the draft. Musial just can't be hanging out there and ready to jump after the draft. There has to be conditions to trading during the draft, particularly for uneven trades and I just set the conditions. Again, I advised to wait until after the draft where there'll be a short window for trades.
Is this some kind of weird Swedish math the the American school system hasn't caught up to yet?
Look Darky. If you place Musial in GDavis's 8th slot, then I have no one in my 6th slot. So do I get to make another sixth round pick again?
Darky, this is all that needs to be don on the draft page:
Round 1, Thursday September 6th
1. 9AM Darky: CF Hack Wilson
2. 9:30 Tempo: SS Ernie Banks
3. 10:00 GDavis: 2B Davey Johnson
4. 10:30 Nomaaa: C JBench
5. 11:00 Beefmaster: LF Kingman
6. 11:30 Nacho: 2B Rogers Hornsby
7. 12:00 PM Fightonusc: RF Babe Ruth
8. 12:30 Shooty: 3B Eddie Mathews
9. 1:00 Ultimate7: CF Willie Mays
10. 1:30 Ryno: RF Roger Maris
Round 2
11. 2:00 Ryno: 1B Mark McGwire
12. 2:30 Ultimate7: 3B Bob Horner
13. 3:00 Shooty: CF Mickey Mantle
14. 3:30 Fightonusc: LF George Foster
15. 4:00 Nacho: C Roy Campanella
16. 4:30 Beefmaster: C Joe Torre
17. 5:00 Nomaaa: LF Ted Williams
18. 5:30 GDavisShooty: C Gene Tenace
19. 6:00 Tempo: CF Dale Murphy
20. 6:30 Darky: 1B Jimmie Foxx
Round 3
21. 7:00 Darky: RF Hank Aaron
22. 7:30 Tempo: RF Andre Dawson
23. 8:00 GDavis: LF Jim Rice
24. 8:30 Nomaaa: CF Duke Snider
25. 9:00 Beefmaster: 2B Davey Lopes
26. Friday, Sept. 7th, 9:00 AM, Nacho: 1B Joe Adcock
27. 9:30 Fightonusc: 1B Willie McCovey
28. 10:00 Shooty: LF Billy Williams
29. 10:30 Ultimate7: LF Carl Yastrzemski
30. 11:00 Ryno: CF Joe DiMaggio
Round 4
31. 11:30 Ryno: 3B Jack Clark
32. 12:00pm Ultimate: C Yogi Berra
33. 12:30 Shooty: 1B Lou Gehrig
34. 1pm Fightonusc: CF Bobby Bonds
35. 1:30 Nacho: RF Jose Canseco
36. 2pm Beefmaster: CF Dwayne Murphy
37. 2:30 Nomaaa: 1B Orlando Cepeda
38. 3pm GDavis: 3B Ron Cey
39. 3:30Tempo: C Carlton Fisk
40. 4pm Darky: 2B Jackie Robinson
Round 5
41. 4:30 Darky: SS Al Dark
42. 5pm Tempo: 1B Tony Perez
43. 5:30 GDavis: CF Fred Lynn
44. 6pm Nomaaa: RF Frank Robinson
45. 6:30 Beefmaster: SS Dickie Thon
46. 7pm Nacho: SS Bert Campaneris
47. 7:30 Figthonusc: 2B Joe Morgan
48. 8pm Shooty: RF Reggie Jackson
49. 8:30 Ultimate7: 1B Will Clark
50. 9pm Ryno: 2B Ryne Sanberg
Round 6
51. 9am Ryno: LF Lou Brock
52. 9:30 Ultimate: RF Mel Ott
53. 10am ShootyGDavis: RF Stan Musial
54. 10:30 Fightonusc: SS Bobby Doerr
55. 11am Nacho: LF Dave Winfield
56. 11:30 Beefmaster:RF Pedro Guerrero
57. 12pm Nomaaa: 1b GDavis
58. 12:30 GDavis: 1B Don Mattingly
59. 9am Monday Tempo: 3B Sal Bando
60. 9:30am Darky: C Jody Davis
Round 7, Monday, September 10th
61. 10am Darky: P Don Drysdale
62. 10:30am Tempo: LF Tris Speaker
63. 11am GDavis: 3B Craig Nettles
64. 11:30am Nomaaa: 3B Ron Santo
65. 12pm Beefmaster: 3B Steve Garvey
66. 12:30pm Nacho: CF Cesar Cedeno
67. 1pm Fightonusc: 3B Leon "Bull" Durham
68. 1:30 Shooty: GDavis C Ernie Lombardi
69. 2pm Ultimate7: SP Phil Niekro
70. 2:30pm Ryno: C Thurmon Munson
Round 8
71. 3pm Ryno: SS Joe Cronin
72. 3:30pm Ultimate7: RP Joe Niekro
73. 4pm Shooty: SP Warren Spahn
74. 4:30 Fightonusc
75. 5pm Nacho
76. 5:30pm Beefmaster
77. 6pm Nomaaa
78. 6:30pm GDavis: RF Musial (acquired via trade)
79. 7pm Tempo
80. 7:30pm Darky
Round 9
81. 8pm Darky
82. 8:30pm Tempo
83. 9pm GDavis
84. Tuesday September, 11th, 9am Nomaaa
85. 9:30am Beefmaster
86. 10am Nacho
87. 10:30am Fightonusc
88. 11am Shooty
89. 11:30am Ultimate7
90. 12pm Ryno
Round 10
91. 12:30pm Ryno
92. 1pm Ultimate7
93. 1:30 Shooty
94. 2pm Fightonusc
95. 2:30 Nacho
96. 3pm Beefmaster
97. 3:30 Nomaaa
98. 4pm GDavis
99. 4:30 Tempo
100. 5pm Darky
Round 11
101. 5:30pm Darky
102. 6:30pm Tempo
103. 7pm GDavis
104. 8:30pm Nomaaa
105. 9pm Beefmaster
Wednesday, September 12th
106. 9am Nacho
107. 9:30am Fightonusc
108. 10am Shooty
109. 10:30am Ultimate7
110. 11am Ryno
Round 12
111. 11:30am Ryno
112. 12pm Ultimate7
113. 12:30pm Shooty
114. 1pm Fightonusc
115. 1:30pm Nacho
116. 2pm Beefmaster
117. 2:30pm Nomaaa
118. 3pm GDavis
119. 3:30pm Tempo
120. 4pm Darky
Round 13
121. 4:30pm Darky
122. 5pm Tempo
123. 5:30 pm GDavis
124. 6pm Nomaaa
125. 6:30pm Beefmaster
126. 7pm Nacho
127. 7:30pm Fightonusc
128. 8pm Shooty
129. 8:30pm Ultimate7
130. 9pm Ryno
Round 14 Thursday, September 13th
131. 9am Ryno
132. 9:30am Ultimate7
133. 10am Shooty
134. 10:30am Fightonusc
135. 11am Nacho
136. 11:30am Beefmaster
137. 12pm Nomaaa
138. 12:30pm GDavis
139. 1pmTempo
140. 1:30pm Darky
Round 15
141. 2pm Darky
142. 2:30pm Tempo
143. 3pm GDavis
144. 3:30pm Nomaaa
145. 4pm Beefmaster
146. 4:30pm Nacho
147. 5pm Fightonusc
148. 5:30pm Shooty
149. 6pm Ultimate7
150. 6:30pm Ryno
Round 16
151. 7pm Ryno
152. 7:30pm Ultimate7
153. 8pm Shooty
154. 8:30pm Fightonusc
155. 9pm Nacho
Round 16, Friday, September 14th
156. 9am Beefmaster
157. 9:30am Nomaaa
158. 10am GDavis Shooty
159. 10:30 Tempo
160. 11pm Darky
Its really just that simple.
If we do it Darky's way, then everyone moves up one draft spot somehow since my 6th round pick has somehow turned into GDavis' 8th round pick and there's nothing to fill that void.
Darky...how does that make sense.
Instead of responding kneejerkedly saying this is your decision. Please actually think about the logic here.
Okay, that makes better sense. Thank you. I conferred with my counsel as well. I'll fix the draft page and replicate the changes you made.
btw, I was super busy at work and just got home, so it was hard to process it all while being in a hundred different places.
Sanity prevails!
Oh....so that Young on Boston is Cy Young! I only read Young and never made the connection. Odd that he is a RP in the arcade version.
I messaged Fighton a while ago about his pick, so hopefully he comes in before he gets passed up too many slots.
eat, drink, and B Terry
Why is Mickey Cochrane crossed out? I don't think he was drafted yet.
I have no idea what happened there. Fixed it.
Good draft selection by Fighton - Ryan did extremely well on my simulations - second to Drysdale. But...that was only for 18 games.
I've messaged fightonusc. Hopefully he's not stuck in traffic.
The only thing I'm stuck in is your mom. YOUR MOM
WOW
lol, had no idea you like granny cougars!
Mike Scott has terrible stamina. I thought he'd be the last SP taken.
But great drop. Is fatigue one of the factors that determines when a pitcher will be taken out?
I figured that fatigue just means they get taken out early, but i'd rather have less quality innings, then a pitcher that lasts longer but gets shelled.
Quote from: GDavis on 09/11/18, 05:31:32 PM
I figured that fatigue just means they get taken out early, but i'd rather have less quality innings, then a pitcher that lasts longer but gets shelled.
If he's starting he's going at lest four innings. Scott will start tiring in the third and his sinkers aren't going to drop. Maybe.
I think you just made that up
Not all of it.
I should do a pitch count to get an idea on the threshold. Fortunately, the arcade version has plenty of pitchers with sinker-drops compared to the NES version. I know in the NES version, Scott and Gooden and Saberhagen had their share of 2K innings.
Good call Beffy on taking Dan Driessen. He's winding down his WIS career for me, and he's consistently overperformed throughout his career
Quote from: GDavis on 09/11/18, 05:31:32 PM
I figured that fatigue just means they get taken out early, but i'd rather have less quality innings, then a pitcher that lasts longer but gets shelled.
ultimate7 figured it out at one point, and I believe CPU relief pitching strategy is dictated purely by the score and the inning - the actual stamina of the pitcher has nothing to do with it, as best I can remember.
I find that hard to believe
It's correct. A starting pitcher will go a minimum of four innings no matter what.
Oh no - you misunderstand me. I find it hard to believe that ultimate7 figured something out.
I'm not smart
The Rabbit Maranville pick is a crapshoot. On paper he should be terrible. 705 power with a 36 contact rating. But that's the rub. I want him to hit like a pitcher (or worse). With his 146 speed, the softer he hits, the more he should get on base. As long as he keeps it on the ground, I'm expecting he should be OK. Maybe even a couple inside the park homers potentially. This is all just speculation. Be interested to hear from Darky how he fared in sims. Although he probably didn't get many at bats.
Quote from: Shooty on 09/12/18, 08:06:36 AM
The Rabbit Maranville pick is a crapshoot. On paper he should be terrible. 705 power with a 36 contact rating. But that's the rub. I want him to hit like a pitcher (or worse). With his 146 speed, the softer he hits, the more he should get on base. As long as he keeps it on the ground, I'm expecting he should be OK. Maybe even a couple inside the park homers potentially. This is all just speculation. Be interested to hear from Darky how he fared in sims. Although he probably didn't get many at bats.
i was hoping this with ozzie
plus lefty hit
Starting Lineup:
NAME BATS CONTACT POWER SPEED POS
Mrnvil RHB 36 705 146 SS
Mantle LHB 13 924 132 CF
Gehrig LHB 10 909 132 1B
Jacksn LHB 21 915 136 RF
Mathws LHB 18 930 124 3B
Bwilms LHB 12 870 124 LF
Tenace RHB 33 870 120 C
StvSax RHB 9 705 142 2B
Quote from: Shooty on 09/12/18, 08:06:36 AM
The Rabbit Maranville pick is a crapshoot. On paper he should be terrible. 705 power with a 36 contact rating. But that's the rub. I want him to hit like a pitcher (or worse). With his 146 speed, the softer he hits, the more he should get on base. As long as he keeps it on the ground, I'm expecting he should be OK. Maybe even a couple inside the park homers potentially. This is all just speculation. Be interested to hear from Darky how he fared in sims. Although he probably didn't get many at bats.
Maranville is also fast enough that the computer will have him steal - I think 146 is the cutoff for that. If you can manage to get him on base, you might get a few extra bases that way as well.
144 is the number that the players will steal. I'll get back to this discussion later - bit busy at work and gotta update this thread.
Quote from: Darky on 09/11/18, 06:52:45 PM
I should do a pitch count to get an idea on the threshold. Fortunately, the arcade version has plenty of pitchers with sinker-drops compared to the NES version. I know in the NES version, Scott and Gooden and Saberhagen had their share of 2K innings.
What I meant is the threshold in the pitch count for the pitcher to fatigue and thus the sinkers no longer drop - my post there had nothing to do with substitutions. Ultimate did lay out the precise scenarios as to when a pitcher comes out and gets pinch hit for. I think he also articulated the 8th hole hitter and when they get substituted which is obviously in the 8th and 9th innings when the game is tied or if you are losing. The one thing that bothers me is when for example, you have a one run lead in either the top of the 5th or 8th and 9th, and the computer won't sub since it accounts for the event that you take the lead in the game of the bottom half of those innings and thus allowing the pitcher to keep pitching.
I'll wait until later or after the draft to reveal more about some things I noticed in my simulations. I didn't scout every player, just the players I had my eye on and some others out of curiosity due to the novelty of their ratings. One thing I'll reveal may be bit of a surprise.
dizzy dean
Is this where we do team names etc? If so
Swinging Dicks
Flesh colored players with pinkish purple trim.
Brock LF
DiMaggio CF
McGwire 1B
Maris RF
J Clark 3B
Sandberg 2B
Cronin SS
Munson C
B1- Keswick
B2-
B3-
B4-
SP1 Clemens
SP2 Sutcliffe
RP1 Sutton
RP2
Darky, are you going to post a separate thread for us to post our lineups and colors?
Quote from: Nacho on 09/12/18, 02:19:48 PM
Darky, are you going to post a separate thread for us to post our lineups and colors?
Yes. So please wait for that.
I do what I want.
Yes!
Hatcher
I'm on the clock, now, right? Even though like three picks are still outstanding?
I was excited to take Coleman until I realized there were only 2 SPs left and I'd better take the one that I'm guessing is going to be better.
No idea what advantage a good fastball has in fantasy RBI, but a good sinker gives a pretty clear advantage.
Quote from: Nacho on 09/13/18, 11:52:51 AM
I was excited to take Coleman until I realized there were only 2 SPs left and I'd better take the one that I'm guessing is going to be better.
No idea what advantage a good fastball has in fantasy RBI, but a good sinker gives a pretty clear advantage.
A good fastball with good location (if a RHB is off the plate and the pitcher paints black on the other side of the plate for examle) can produce a K and bad contact from 5-6 on a scale of 0-6. Sinkers don't come with the same frequency as they do in the NES version, especially with two strikes. There won't be all these strikeouts that many of you are expecting. Has to be something in the Unknown ratings and perhaps its relationship to the two sinker ratings or all of them together.
I've emailed some people from Tengen, or that is, people who used to work at Tengen, to try and find out what the fuck does the two unknown ratings imply.
Quote from: Darky on 09/13/18, 12:05:21 PM
Quote from: Nacho on 09/13/18, 11:52:51 AM
I was excited to take Coleman until I realized there were only 2 SPs left and I'd better take the one that I'm guessing is going to be better.
No idea what advantage a good fastball has in fantasy RBI, but a good sinker gives a pretty clear advantage.
A good fastball with good location (if a RHB is off the plate and the pitcher paints black on the other side of the plate for examle) can produce a K and bad contact from 5-6 on a scale of 1-6. Sinkers don't come with the same frequency as they do in the NES version, especially with two strikes. There won't be all these strikeouts that many of you are expecting. Has to be something in the Unknown ratings and perhaps its relationship to the two sinker ratings or all of them together.
I've emailed some people from Tengen, or that is, people who used to work at Tengen, to try and find out what the fuck does the two unknown ratings imply.
Isn't it a 0-6 scale?
Jenkins was on my board btw as my # 2 pitcher. You made the right call there. I scouted him for about 20 games. His 111/114 unknown ratings mean something good. I'm thinking the smaller the difference between the two numbers, the more quality that results, whether the two numbers are high or low.
Also, about the low power and high contact hitters - they'll be lucky to hit .400, but the guys with 146 to 148 speed, they'll do damage when they get on base if they are at the top of the lineup and they'll have their 3-4 hit games and that'll be a significant impact. Then they'll have their 0fer games. I think I saw a player go 0-11 in two games, forgot who it was. Shooty's rabbit that he took at SS, he may hit over .500 because of the way he bleeds every ball around the infield and seems to not hit popups as much. I scouted Rickey Henderson hard, and he just can't break .400 in 100 at-bats. All the other players I scouted with similar ratings in 100 at-bats or so didn't break .400. I was going to take Rickey and go with that approach and just ignore the LF until Rickey later on in the draft, but I want hits and hr's.
Pete Rose btw, he hit .433 in about 90 at-bats. Fuckin' Charlie Hustle was on my board and I was hoping he'd slip by, but he's taken now. I couldn't pull the trigger because of his speed.
And zero players that I've scouted with a 705 rating hit a homerun. btw, Coleman is another player who could hit close to .500 with crazy triples.
Shooty, your boy Rabbit may have two inside the parkers btw. I saw him do it the other day.
Shooty, my bad - it is a 0-6 scale.
And thanks to GDavis, he put Shooty over the top. Shooty's team is going to be REALLY hard to beat. He may be 16-2 this season. Shooty got a bunch of guys who can obviously hit, but they also have the good glitches who overperform their ratings. And his Rabbit selection won't be a liability. GDavis has a similar guy, but because of the lower contact, there are more weak popups and less balls on the ground, weak line drives, and those damn bleeders.
Quote from: Darky on 09/13/18, 12:20:37 PM
And thanks to GDavis, he put Shooty of the top.
This is exactly why I hate trades. Someone always fucks up their draft strategy, and someone else (usually Shooty), is right there to offer them an imbalanced trade. It upsets the balance of the league, and I'd be 100% in favor of a no-trades policy in future drafts. I say that as someone who benefitted from Darky's terrible season last year where he basically gave me Ellis Burks.
Yeah, that was my bad. I forgot to implement no trades during the draft and was planning no trades until midseason. By the time I mentioned a no trade policy, it was too late since Shooty had planned out to trade his pick and had I stood ground, he probably would have flown to Sweden, got a hunters license, and hunted me down since he can be psycho, but psycho in a good way when it comes to FRBI. I'm guessing Strassy isn't too fond of his PASSION for FRBI :D
Quote from: Nacho on 09/13/18, 12:22:56 PM
Quote from: Darky on 09/13/18, 12:20:37 PM
And thanks to GDavis, he put Shooty of the top.
This is exactly why I hate trades. Someone always fucks up their draft strategy, and someone else (usually Shooty), is right there to offer them an imbalanced trade. It upsets the balance of the league, and I'd be 100% in favor of a no-trades policy in future drafts. I say that as someone who benefitted from Darky's terrible season last year where he basically gave me Ellis Burks.
You guys need to relax, this is fantasy RBI, wtf.
Plus there is so much randomness, the teams are even. I say it's 50/50 that Shooty wins more than 10 games.
Quote from: ultimate7 on 09/13/18, 04:44:00 PM
Quote from: Nacho on 09/13/18, 12:22:56 PM
Quote from: Darky on 09/13/18, 12:20:37 PM
And thanks to GDavis, he put Shooty of the top.
This is exactly why I hate trades. Someone always fucks up their draft strategy, and someone else (usually Shooty), is right there to offer them an imbalanced trade. It upsets the balance of the league, and I'd be 100% in favor of a no-trades policy in future drafts. I say that as someone who benefitted from Darky's terrible season last year where he basically gave me Ellis Burks.
You guys need to relax, this is fantasy RBI, wtf.
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO RELAX WHEN MY INTERNET FRIENDS ARE MAKING SLIGHTLY IMBALANCED TRADES IN FANTASY RBI BASEBALL?
Shooty promised to cut me in on 50% of his winnings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwxwUiDbRCk
Well, I just ran a sim and saw Ryno's team beat Shooty's team, 28-18. Clemens went the distance.
Fantasy RBI should be taken very seriously! Look at Shooty, he wants that first title so bad! Still funny how Jack Clark, who came via a trade, pretty much wrecked Canada's chances last season. Word around campfire is that he went on a hard drinking binge.
Still though, Shooty will win more than 10 games, then the playoff jinx will hit him again!
The games will vary from what I'm seeing so far. All the pitchers are quality compared to the NES version, and I've noticed that every one of them will throw a gem one game, then get rocked the next. There is no dominant pitcher like a Gooden from the NES version. Good pitchers are there for sure, but it's hard to say who is the best and who is a lower tier pitcher - nobody stands out really and nobody stinks like Reuschel from the NES version. We'll see after the season when we have a body of stats for 18 games.
You are going with 15 run rule, right?
Quote from: ultimate7 on 09/13/18, 06:04:29 PM
You are going with 15 run rule, right?
15 at least or maybe 18.
I ran a quick sim against Tempo's team since he's team was right next to mine (I filled in my team in the Oakland slot), and our players were serious while Tempo's team didn't take the game seriously since that's frowned upon in his organization :D
Guidry threw a gem. Two complete games in a row for him. The game before, we ran Fighton's team!
Also, I'm gonna find the slot where there's a boost glitch like in the NES version, and that's where the Empire will be placed! A way to neutralize the randomness, is to give your team a soul with a strong subjective observer effect. Mind-matter thing. I know, I'm goofy! :idiot:
Also, I am going to alternate the errors from week-to-week. If you don't like it, get your bitching out of the way right here and see how much I'll give a flying fuck. One week the errors could be 0, the next 9, the next 3 and so on. I'll do a random generator with a bunch of papers numbered 1-9 and then I'll shake my hat and select. Actually, the error ratings will probably be set from 0-6 from week-to-week - 7 and higher is too high.
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