Poll
Question:
Which cart would you buy?
Option 1: RBI Arcade
votes: 10
Option 2: RBI NES with same teams
votes: 4
Option 3: 2005 RBI
votes: 13
Option 4: Other
votes: 3
had this disccussion with Gantry and Malnu sunday night, and i never posted the link or any info cause i figured yall knew about this...but here it is. They'd never heard about it.
http://www.nesreproductions.com/
as long as you got a rom that you can play on your PC he can somehow then turnaround and get it onto a cart that you can play in your nes. he's from cananda, and i think its about 30/35 bucks per game and you dont exactly need to supply your own cart. from what i remember from the tecmo repository forums he was reputable, but im not for sure on that, so if you do buy, make sure that maybe its just one carts to start with, then go from there....before you sen him a shitload of cash.
http://www.knobbe.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=41534#41534
heres link to the post about this at the reposiory site. its got some decent traffic from tiem to time, so hopefuly we'll get some feedback in the next day about this guy.
this would keep you inline with the nes, the controller and the calssic feel, if youd prefer that to using your dreamcast or whatever for those roms
reminds me...nightwulf i got a few TB projects for yah, that i''ll contact you about soon..i'll make it worth your time as well.
If we can get a nice core group of buyers, we can make a 2005 or all-time RBI ROM set and possibly get a nice discount. There are a bunch of user ROMs that would make a great NES cart...
Thanks for the link TBT, I'll have to inquire further...
ive talked to the guy via email about some TB stuff i want. theres some roms for TB from like 2003 that are out there on the repository that i may just send him and have him make me a game quick just to actually check it out.
i'll get on this and try to have some results in the next week or so as to how the game play is and stuff....apparently you provide the artwork for the cover of the game as well......lemon party bowl, or tub girl bowl would be approppriate ;D maybe both!
i'll post any finding from buyers on the repository before we go to deep into business with this guy.
$35 is not too bad, I might look into this, but probably not since I hardly even play NES RBI or my Arcade RBI.
If anyone does this, post results.
Arcade RBI is a no brainer, forgot about that! Who would be down for buying an arcade RBI cart? Post here. I think if we have enough people, we can get the price down to $25. But then again I don't know how much this shit really costs...
I know Mcclane is interested, if you got Arcade carts with NES gameplay, I would probably be in for $25.
If we used nightwulf's NES ROM with arcade players we'd be set on that...
You'd actually have to use the NES engine with arcade players. For reasons which I'll skip since they're probably long and boring, a suitable "donor cart" for the arcade RBI does not exist.
I don't mean to frown on the idea, but it's just not something I'm really that excited about. I'd just as soon burn a few thousand NES ROMs onto a disc (including a few dozen versions of RBI) and play them on the Dreamcast. Another possibility is to obtain one of the various NES development carts which would allow you to continually reburn the ROM with whatever game you feel like playing, instead of $30 per shot.
This whole "donor cart" business is necessary because (almost every) NES game uses additional hardware to ... "make the game bigger" (best I can do), and there's probably a couple dozen different ways to do it in widespread use, and probably somewhere around 100 (hundred) different mappers overall. Fortunately for us, RBI Baseball uses what's known as "MMC3," which is the most common mapper by far. I'll try to get a list of compatible boards put together, 'cause I'm fairly sure you can pick up bullshit games at garage sales for a quarter that would work as an RBI "donor cart."
Nightwulf
I emailed the guy and asked what sort of discount he offers between ten and thirty carts. I have a feeling Arcade RBI would fall between those numbers...
QuoteAnother possibility is to obtain one of the various NES development carts which would allow you to continually reburn the ROM with whatever game you feel like playing, instead of $30 per shot.
Cool, never heard of this. You got links or a place that sells said carts?
Let us know about the donor carts, that might help persuade some more people to get one made...
Got a reply already from the guy who makes the cart, looks like $30 is going to be the best price. Who is interested? Even though I already have the arcade RBI, I think I'd spring for one at $30.
I'll also go on the lookout for a volume pack of MMC3 carts to ship to the guy. If I can pull that off, we'll save a couple bucks a cart. But don't count on it...
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The 35$ per cart cost covers:
- cost of donor cart (most popular MMC3 cards are Super Mario Bros 2 &
3). Unfortunetly, their costs have gone up a lot over the last couple
of years. MMC3 is not the most popular donor cart, MMC1 is. The
difference between the two is component cost. MMC3 uses two 1 or
2MBit ROM chips + SRAM chip (and some have a battery as well). MMC1
on the other hand (especially SLROM), uses only a single ROM chip.
Much much cheaper to make in the 80s.. so there were more SLROM based
games. I'm actually having difficulty finding MMC3 donor boards for
other customers.
- cost of EPROM chips
- cost of labour (takes about an hour per cart from beginning to end to make)
- cost of shipping (from Toronto, Canada)
So the 35$ cost is really cutting it close. The only way I can really
save on cost is shipping (multiple carts shipped to the same place at
the same time is much cheaper than many packets being shipped all over
the place).
If you order 5 or more carts, I'll be able to do 30$ per cart (25$ if
you provide the donor). I'll be able to knock off another 5$ if all
carts are shipped to the same place and you order 10 or more carts.
Rod Woodson (aka the Gantry of the tecmo repository site) replied to my post saying he got his cart with no hitches or problems.
He sent another followup email already, he is clearly on top of things and knows his shit. I think two possible carts initially:
Arcade RBI
Regular NES with 2-player pause and same teams
I think either cart should get us to the minimum number of 5 copies for the discount. Shit, I'd love to have either cart and may just buy both. Who is the best of the best, pick the same team and find out!
Who is up for one or the other?
i think id most like the same teams one for now......I can get the arcade later.
I may be interested in the arcade version. I probably should play it first to see if I like it.
Quote from: Mark on 06/28/05, 04:00:09 PM
I may be interested in the arcade version. I probably should play it first to see if I like it.
It's the same game with different players (what's not to like?)
Quote from: Gantry on 06/28/05, 12:25:03 PM
If we can get a nice core group of buyers, we can make a 2005 or all-time RBI ROM set and possibly get a nice discount. There are a bunch of user ROMs that would make a great NES cart...
I would most definitely be down with this. It'd also be super fun to debate the exact ratings for each player if we make a 2005 ROM...or just getting the arcade ROM would be kick ass...
I would prefer a 2K5 ROM, but I could be persuaded if the group decides something else.
I'm in for the two player pause/same team ROM...probably the arcade as well, but definitely the same team rom.
Quote from: Attezzobal on 06/28/05, 04:36:38 PM
I'm in for the two player pause/same team ROM...probably the arcade as well, but definitely the same team rom.
I don't see the point in $30 for the same team 2pp rom. The same team part is nice, but is it really that hard to say, "dude, i need a time out?"
No, it's just the defacto online ROM and it takes the same amount of effort to include it. Same team would be the draw. Shit, I'd be down for replacing the all-star teams with Toronto and somebody else from 86/87. It all depends on what people are most interested in, I'd buy just about anything. Online and arcade just don't measure up to the NES for me...
that did not occur to me, to have maybe the 87 bluejays...damn good idea! yah know id be down for giving HOU and STL some more pop by editing a few players. not a lot cause thier pitching is pretty stellar but if they just had a couple of dangerous guys on there....Gdavis, and maybe even get jack clark all steroided up! ;D
The possibilities are endless...
I'd be up for fixing up the 2k5 ROM a bit, and I think it'd be sweet to have a hard copy. My biggest issue with this - I don't like the idea of having partial-season stats in an actual cartridge, and this seems far enough into 2005 that last year's stats don't seem like they'd match players' abilities very well, if I based them on this years' performance. If I did this, I'd feel better about it if I waited until the end of the season to put it together.
Also, what teams would people want? Would I go with this year's playoff teams plus the next-best team in each league, playoff teams plus all-star teams from the non-playoff teams, or the most popular teams (to get the Cubs and Yankees involved)?
Agreed, Beef. Half way through stats don't really cut it. Instead of waiting for the 2nd half of the season, why don't we start out with the arcade ROM and order another round (for those who wish to) as soon as this season is complete?
As cool as this sounds and as many different versions Id buy if i had the money, I feel that you are all playing RBI god again. I feel that sacrificing the lives of other games and cloning and messing witht he original make up of the game is just wrong.
Oh what the fuck am I talking about... Im in.
If the world ends it ends....
Added a puhl, can those who are interested in purchasing vote for the one they would prefer most? I think an intial run of 5-10 of the most popular is the way to start. After that, we can go from there...
i went and voted with the nes w/ same teams, but i'll buy any of the 3 (if we all need to buy the same game for the discount)....so mark me down for 1 game regaurdless which one at the moment.
I'll be in for an Arcade cart. :o
I demand to be one of those who get in on this action right away!
maybe I'm stoopid, but what does "RBI NES with same teams" actually mean - it sounds just like the regular game I already have
RBI w/ same teams = both Player 1 and 2 can play with the same team for a game. For example, you and I could play a 2 player game, and both of us could use Detroit. It's handy because it eliminates arguments like "You only won because you got to use Detroit..."
gotcha - thanks Nails
maybe if someone wants to create a looney rom on the side...eliminate the all star teams and make 2 teams with dee-nee players...maybe have joe dirt on 1 team as a pitcher, and Bonny on the other team as a pitcher. make Rdub and MikeD as a powerful combo.....Malnu as an insane "speed"ster ;D.
the posibilites are endless. Have Mclane a powerful bat off the bench, so he can wait in the dugout for a few innings and sober up. maybe someone with too much time on thier hands can create a couple of dee-nee lineups or something.
anyways make a rom, and i'd send the guy 30 some bucks seperately to buy the damn thing.
and perhaps curtflood can be too hungover to be on the rom?
Quote from: TecmoBowlTerror on 06/29/05, 09:37:01 PM
maybe if someone wants to create a looney rom on the side...eliminate the all star teams and make 2 teams with dee-nee players...maybe have joe dirt on 1 team as a pitcher, and Bonny on the other team as a pitcher. make Rdub and MikeD as a powerful combo.....Malnu as an insane "speed"ster ;D.
the posibilites are endless. Have Mclane a powerful bat off the bench, so he can wait in the dugout for a few innings and sober up. maybe someone with too much time on thier hands can create a couple of dee-nee lineups or something.
anyways make a rom, and i'd send the guy 30 some bucks seperately to buy the damn thing.
... and we'll call one team the "Dee-Nees" and one team the "Dah-Nahs", and then have a draft so people can pick what player's stats they want - it'll be great!
Can you get more than 1 rom on a cart?
Quote from: BeefMaster on 06/29/05, 10:21:04 PM
... and we'll call one team the "Dee-Nees" and one team the "Dah-Nahs", and then have a draft so people can pick what player's stats they want - it'll be great!
Screw that. We should go see this new movie Napolean Dynamite though. Heard of it?
Quote from: Bonny on 06/29/05, 10:31:15 PM
Can you get more than 1 rom on a cart?
In theory, sure. But it'd require a fuckton more work than I'm willing to do.
Nightwulf
Beejay made a dee nee rom. I'm too lazy to attach the file. Sucka dong.
Quote from: fknmclane on 06/30/05, 01:53:59 AM
Beejay made a dee nee rom. I'm too lazy to attach the file. Sucka dong.
I remember that... I think I had something like 50 speed, so I could be thrown out at first on fly balls off the left field fence.
Quote... and we'll call one team the "Dee-Nees" and one team the "Dah-Nahs", and then have a draft so people can pick what player's stats they want - it'll be great!
After this weekend, we should have "D Knee" and "Dih Nih" teams...
Looks like we have more than 5 to do the RBI arcade. We'll take votes until Monday and order a set of ROMs then. Booyah! That's the quickiest turnaround ever for a dee-nee project, good work TBT
Damn Gantry, its good to know that I can get some serious Tony Kornhieser dap for doing absolutely nothing.....Dee-Nee cred is Dee-Nee cred, so i'll take it. ;)
Two words...
1: Pitcher
2: Rom
Quote from: Gantry on 06/30/05, 07:42:17 AM
[quoteAfter this weekend, we should have "D Knee" and "Dih Nih" teams...
Can "Dih Nih" even field a starting 9?
If it's not too late, I would be in for both the arcade version and same team rom. This is an excellent find!
i think the best option would be to get that translated edition of Family Stadium (the one with season mode) finished up, i would easily pay 35 bucks to get my hands on that.
i would also buy a RBI 2005 cart, but we would have to somehow agree on the teams and ratings, etc.
So what's it going to be? Let's not introduce too many new options because if we keep doing that, we're never going to get anything accomplished. Also remember, if this goes well, we'll be ordering more ROMs in the future.
I say let's move forward with the Aracde ROM, since 1) it's the leading vote getter and 2) it does not require a debate on ratings, teams, etc.
And if this goes well, I suggest we sit tight on the 2005 ROM until the season ends. Perhaps we can have all the ground work done so that the ROM is ready to go as soon as the season ends (team selections, P per team, etc).
Thoughts?
I'm willing to take the lead in this project, if it's helpful...
Quote from: Strassy on 07/04/05, 01:01:36 PM
i think the best option would be to get that translated edition of Family Stadium (the one with season mode) finished up, i would easily pay 35 bucks to get my hands on that.
Unfortunately it's not possible, unless you can find some Japanese carts using the Namcot mapper to use as "donor carts," and own an adapter to play them on the NES. I think that particular Family Stadium was the only one using bizarre hardware though. You might be able to find suitable carts for the other FS games.
In theory the game could probably be recoded to use a more standard mapper, but that's really not a project I have time to tackle.
Nightwulf
I'm way behind on this but count me in on any carts you guys want to make, ones that I'm really interested in are RBI2K5 and the Arcade version
Gantry/TBT...are either of you going to get this done or do you want/need me to step in?
I am all for you stepping in Joe, as we all know about my ability to slack...
Perhaps PM with orders and/or send you the money via paypal?
Quote from: Gantry on 07/04/05, 10:35:32 PM
I am all for you stepping in Joe, as we all know about my ability to slack...
Perhaps PM with orders and/or send you the money via paypal?
no way am I PayPal'ing JoeD any money, I will send it to him along with a lengthy love letter that he will not be able to read.
i suppose we'd need all parties to PM joe with confirmation and probably send paypal payments. hell i dunno, i didnt expect there to be much interest in this, so its a surprise.
i assume this guy takes gaypal?
Quote from: Gantry on 06/28/05, 01:29:14 PM
He sent another followup email already, he is clearly on top of things and knows his shit. I think two possible carts initially:
Gantry...I'm gonna take over this operation to get in done. Can you please forward the emails that to/from the guy so I can get all caught up?
Also, somewhere I think you said you can get free shipping or something like that? I probably should re-read this entire thread....
I posted the emails in this thread, I think...
Basically he said $30 shipped if we get at least 5 orders....
I'm really lost on this one, so whomever decides to collect the loot, just drop me a PM and I'll send you some cash.
This thread scares me, because of it's implications. Somewhere, some dude has the ability to cheaply make an RBI cartidge that looks/plays/feels like the original, but Jimmy Key has the ability to knock one over the fence. That's not a world I want to live in.
i doubt that jimmy key can do that, but it would be an interesting wildcard feature if the pitchers were somewhat near the crappiness realm of say rapheal santana or spike owen.
not a sure out by any means, but not fearable.
Quote from: BeeJay on 07/05/05, 04:06:28 PM
This thread scares me, because of it's implications. Somewhere, some dude has the ability to cheaply make an RBI cartidge that looks/plays/feels like the original, but Jimmy Key has the ability to knock one over the fence. That's not a world I want to live in.
This was an initial concern to me as well. Would anyone have the ability to actually check the validity of a cartridge this guy made?
Not like he would have any reason to alter any stats, but maybe he is the kind of guy that just likes to fuck with people (you know, like the guy who made Brett a righty on the original version).
Quote from: TecmoBowlTerror on 07/05/05, 04:46:20 PM
i doubt that jimmy key can do that, but it would be an interesting wildcard feature if the pitchers were somewhat near the crappiness realm of say rapheal santana or spike owen.
not a sure out by any means, but not fearable.
YOU WILL FEAR SPIKE OWEN
The guy seems on the level and seems respected on the Tecmo Bowl boards. Why would he take the time to alter the stats and/or learn RBI editing to screw a bunch of guys that are about to give him hundreds of dollars?
Quote from: Gantry on 07/07/05, 01:17:55 PM
The guy seems on the level and seems respected on the Tecmo Bowl boards. Why would he take the time to alter the stats and/or learn RBI editing to screw a bunch of guys that are about to give him hundreds of dollars?
No clue. Was just thinking mistakes can be made, and we would have no way of telling.
I don't know how this process works as I am computer stupid.
Okay, I'm gonna get this done in the next few weeks. I wanna make sure to give people enough time to say they want a copy.
If you want a cartridge of the arcade rom, raise your hand and say "aye." And then post that you do. Then PM your mailing address to me and how you intend to pay (paypal or check). I'm not going to cover paypal fees like I did for the tourney, so please remember to include a few bucks if using paypal.
I'll get the mailing thing worked out--but understand that you'll have to send add'l funds when the time comes to ship...
What's the status of this? I'd like a cartridge if a bunch of people are ordering, if not I might just contact him individually and get my ArcadeII Rom as a cartridge.
Officially count me in for a cartridge, I think JoeD wanted people to chime in on this thread with an official yes.
i just sent him a pm yesterday about it(havent heard back yet)....but since the site was down for awhile he may have taken his own life, which means we'll have to re-organize the effort.
anyways i'm down for what ever the cart the majority wants to get the discount.
i know i'm getting in late on this one, but i think starting with the arcade version and then doing a 2K5 version if they are good is a smart plan.
I probably won't get an Arcade version, but would be pretty interested in a 2005 version at the end of the season.
Yeah, I got your PM TBT...only got a few PMs. I might just through down and buy 10 from the guy and sell 'em for cost to you guys...'cause it's gonna take forever for you dicks to PM me that you want one!
I lopve you Dirty Joe will you send me rom?
on cart?
yes baby, i will
Fighton or BeeJay--can either of you guys come up with a cool Arcade RBI Baseball label for our Arade cart?
The guy has this to say about the labels: "Image labels should be 1205 x
680 resolution (72dpi)."
when and who do we pay for this??
i'm just going to buy some and resell them to people at cost...i'm not going to let you get one, though, malnu.
Quote from: JoeDirt on 07/18/05, 04:33:10 PM
i'm just going to buy some and resell them to people at cost...i'm not going to let you get one, though, malnu.
I know where you live! I saved the directions, I have them in a lockbox next to a pair of your underware I stole while you were playing RBI.
the same one TBT had on his head for most of the weekend? I still don't get why Baines got to keep my undies...
Quote from: JoeDirt on 07/18/05, 04:35:09 PM
the same one TBT had on his head for most of the weekend? I still don't get why Baines got to keep my undies...
they were part of the give away for the weekend.....damn i gotta PM him and see what he did with em?
Can somebody please verify that all of the ratings are correct on this ROM? Also, please verify that the names, HRs, Ave, ERA are correct and that each batter is set up to bat from the appropriate side...and that each P is set up to throw appropriately (R/L and side/no side).
At least, can you all pick one team and verify? This is the ROM that we will be using for the RBI Arcade Cart...I want to make it perfect.
And a big thanks to BeeJay for designing a sweet label for the cart...
This is the last step before I get them made, so please help out! Thanks.
The one preset in Nightwulf's editor ARCADE (or whatever) is correct, basically because we would have no other evidence that it wasn't.
Quote from: JoeDirt on 07/19/05, 08:08:09 AM
And a big thanks to BeeJay for designing a sweet label for the cart...
do we have to wait to see the label?
I PM'ed you, but just making sure you know I want one.
Quote from: malnuboy on 07/19/05, 08:30:36 AM
Quote from: JoeDirt on 07/19/05, 08:08:09 AM
And a big thanks to BeeJay for designing a sweet label for the cart...
do we have to wait to see the label?
Malnu is so bitter now that he is immobilized because of his foot injury.
I'm for both arcade and 2005, but why would somebody buy the original? I assume most of us already have it. Just because I think I am way off track here, were talking about getting these game on a regular nitendo cartridge....right?
And show us the damn design JoeDirt
I tried to post it, but the file is too big...
Quote from: JoeDirt on 07/19/05, 08:08:09 AM
Can somebody please verify that all of the ratings are correct on this ROM? Also, please verify that the names, HRs, Ave, ERA are correct and that each batter is set up to bat from the appropriate side...and that each P is set up to throw appropriately (R/L and side/no side).
At least, can you all pick one team and verify? This is the ROM that we will be using for the RBI Arcade Cart...I want to make it perfect.
And a big thanks to BeeJay for designing a sweet label for the cart...
This is the last step before I get them made, so please help out! Thanks.
I was just thinking, did you make a ROM with select same team and player 2 pause options?
no...make it and we'll use that. good call.
Quote from: JoeDirt on 07/19/05, 04:14:33 PM
I tried to post it, but the file is too big...
bring it in to photoshop and go to "save for web" it will reduce the file size, just make sure you change the name and don't save over the original.
Quote from: JoeDirt on 07/19/05, 04:17:05 PM
no...make it and we'll use that. good call.
I'll do it tomorrow, another question would be the ERROR rates, what's there is what is preset for the NES teams, we could edit for the Arcade whatever we want.
I would think maybe STL and CIN should have low error rates (off the top of my head) Others? Dryden could probably be of good help for this.
fine!
thank you Joe, can I design the 2005 cover?
yes baby, please do.
Quote from: ultimate7 on 07/19/05, 04:22:52 PM
I'll do it tomorrow, another question would be the ERROR rates, what's there is what is preset for the NES teams, we could edit for the Arcade whatever we want.
The error rates for the "default arcade data" were changed to all zeros as soon as that option was made available in the editor. This was done to more closely emulate the arcade game's behavior (no bops).
Nightwulf
Sorry, I've been bogged down in kickball stuff this week. Being the new board president comes at a price.
You are officially RBI board president now so keep working hard. You first task is to get my mix CD out...
The label looks great, nice work...
Quote from: nightwulf on 07/19/05, 04:33:06 PM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 07/19/05, 04:22:52 PM
I'll do it tomorrow, another question would be the ERROR rates, what's there is what is preset for the NES teams, we could edit for the Arcade whatever we want.
The error rates for the "default arcade data" were changed to all zeros as soon as that option was made available in the editor. This was done to more closely emulate the arcade game's behavior (no bops).
Nightwulf
Oh that's right, forgot about that, is the consensus to leave them at 0, then? I've got no problem with that.
I'm definitely interested in purchasing a 2005 RBI ROM. Anything in the works?
Stevo--read the whole thread. We're planning on making a 2005 Cart after the 2005 season.
What about Beefmasters 2K5 ROM available on the ROM page?
Quote from: Stevo on 07/21/05, 01:17:13 PM
What about Beefmasters 2K5 ROM available on the ROM page?
You are welcome to use the ROM and order one for yourself, but it appears Dee-Nee will not be ordering these as a group right now.
EDIT: Looks like you already realized this. Another option is to make your own 2005 ROM, it isn't that difficult and then you can use the players/teams you want, will probably take you 1-4 hours depending on how exact you want it.
I'm not well versed in creating ROMS. Sounds interesting, what exactly does it entail?
Got to Nightwulf's site:
http://nightwulf.rbicentral.com/rbi-editor
set up an account and go at it, the easiest thing to start is to pull up some of the other teams and look at their stats/etc and just play with it. If you can't figure something out just post here and someone will help you out, but for the most part it's user friendly.
I'll check it out..thanks!!
Quote from: ultimate7 on 07/19/05, 04:22:52 PM
Quote from: JoeDirt on 07/19/05, 04:17:05 PM
no...make it and we'll use that. good call.
I'll do it tomorrow, another question would be the ERROR rates, what's there is what is preset for the NES teams, we could edit for the Arcade whatever we want.
I would think maybe STL and CIN should have low error rates (off the top of my head) Others? Dryden could probably be of good help for this.
Ult? Did you get around to doing this? I'm ready to order for us once the ROM is complete...
Here's the ROM with 2pp and same team selection, left error values at 0, though they are easy to change if desired.
Thanks, Ult. Gang--we're good with leaving E as off, like the arcade version--right?
Quote from: ultimate7 on 07/25/05, 01:06:53 PM
Here's the ROM with 2pp and same team selection, left error values at 0, though they are easy to change if desired.
I'd rebuild that as a "normal" ROM instead of "overstuffed," unless for some reason the guy says otherwise.
Nightwulf
Quote from: nightwulf on 07/25/05, 04:22:55 PM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 07/25/05, 01:06:53 PM
Here's the ROM with 2pp and same team selection, left error values at 0, though they are easy to change if desired.
I'd rebuild that as a "normal" ROM instead of "overstuffed," unless for some reason the guy says otherwise.
Nightwulf
OK, I meant to ask about that, will do that too when we decide on the error codes.
Just to confirm, for ROM purposes of playing online, etc. there really is no noticible difference between the normal and overstuffed, right. I know this has been discussed before, but it was a while back.
I say add errors...nothing major, but maybe you can just get all of the team fielding %s and have the best one be whatever the NES all stars are and the worst one be whatever Dt is...and everything in the middle matching, as well?
Quote from: ultimate7 on 07/25/05, 04:33:44 PM
Just to confirm, for ROM purposes of playing online, etc. there really is no noticible difference between the normal and overstuffed, right. I know this has been discussed before, but it was a while back.
There's no difference, period. The overstuffed ROM has an extra 160k of data and code that are never swapped into the NES's address space. It's dead weight, basically.
Nightwulf
uh......so will there be errors(bops) or not? these last few replies went from not having them to having them.
just curious, as i am a fan of the almighty BOP!
BOPs = good
You know what? I change my vote. I agree, BOPS are better, but they aren't in the arcade version...so why should we have 'em in our "acrade version?"
Because it is "our" arcade version? To me, it makes for a more enjoyable two-player experience with BOPs...
While I agree with you that it's better to have BOPS, I don't think we should change the game...just like if we do the NES Cart Sames Teams 2pp, I will be deathly opposed to making Gedman, Brett, Heep bat on the correct side of the plate....dead against it. BUT, it is better to have all batters bat the correct way, isn't it?
I don't think these are fair comparisons, but I say let the purchasers vote on it...
I'm stating my case.
You're saying we should take one of the things that makes the arcade ROM uniquely different than the NES ROM...I am saying we shouldn't.
I believe Brizock would accuse you of playing RBI god...to which most of you would deny the existence of and some of you would even talk down to those who believe.
Then I fully accept playing RBI God. I just think adding a feature to the Arcade ROM to make it more enjoyable on the NES isn't a bad thing given this context. We are not changing the handedness of batters or anything out of the realm of RBI, simply adding a feature that is already used and loved in the NES version of RBI. We aren't adding foreign features, but making it more playable...
Lets not forget that this Arcade ROM is the NES version of RBI with Arcade stats. So we aren't using the exact batting/pitching engine or technically any 100% authentic line of code from Arcade RBI. The only thing that is authentic are the player stats anyway. Obivously this is due to technical limitations but the amount of sacrilege to the RBI Gods is probably high enough right there...
It's not a dealbreaker to me, but as someone who has both versions I personally feel the increased "fun factor" with BOPs trumps the "stay authentic" argument. I can see why people would disagree, but I don't want to make a less enjoyable game for the sake of purity...
Quote from: Gantry on 07/25/05, 08:04:41 PM
Lets not forget that this Arcade ROM is the NES version of RBI with Arcade stats. So we aren't using the exact batting/pitching engine or technically any 100% authentic line of code from Arcade RBI.
What exactly does this mean? You know I'm narrow minded and ignorant about the world around me, so can you please help me understand how/why the two batting/pitching engines are different?
We don't technically know how different the batting/pitching engines are. But we are using the NES ROM, meaning all pitching and hitting (and everything else with the game) is done via their code. My guess is that they are essentially the same, but if there are any nuances to any part of batting/hitting/fielding in arcade RBI, they are lost by using the NES ROM...
Same goes for unique aspects to NES RBI, like many of the glitches and the like. They will be in the final product despite not being in arcade RBI...
To me Aracde and NES RBI are 99% similar, but I'm sure Peter Lipson did some minor tweaking of the hitting/fielding/pitching between releasing arcade RBI and NES RBI. Anything that was tweaked is not going to be on the NES cart, because we are using all the code from the NES version of RBI...
Is there any indication that they are different--even if only slightly? Admitedly I don't play my arcade game often, but I'd be surprised if there was any tweaking involved...other than the addition of BOPS!
i hear the nes has an occasional lemon party celebration in the dug out, while the arcade was more of a straight up tubgirl o'rama in the dug out.
10-run rule and extra innings are different
Also many regulars think that the trajectory of hits is slightly different (higher in the Arcade). I'm not certain.
can we just build the damn game already.
Quote from: ultimate7 on 07/25/05, 08:53:18 PM
10-run rule and extra innings are different
Also many regulars think that the trajectory of hits is slightly different (higher in the Arcade). I'm not certain.
I'm talking about the pitching/batting engines.
Quote from: JoeDirt on 07/25/05, 09:27:35 PM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 07/25/05, 08:53:18 PM
10-run rule and extra innings are different
Also many regulars think that the trajectory of hits is slightly different (higher in the Arcade). I'm not certain.
I'm talking about the pitching/batting engines.
I think the 2nd half of my message addressed that, but no one has looked at the code to know for certain
UPDATE:
Carts officially ordered. There's only going to be 10, so please let me know asap if you want one.
It's time to start sending checks/paypal, so if you want one, please PM me for my address/paypal user id asap.
The guy did make it clear that he does this on the side, so it very well might take a lil while to get 'em...
Hey Joe, am i alowed to order one of these? If you wont accept my money I will trade one Anthony Robbin's "Get the Edge" self help VHS's for one RBI arcade cart.
Quote from: malnuboy on 07/31/05, 09:14:51 PM
Hey Joe, am i alowed to order one of these? If you wont accept my money I will trade one Anthony Robbin's "Get the Edge" self help VHS's for one RBI arcade cart.
No, I refuse to acknowledge anything you say or post from now on....because if I wanna here malnu, all I have to do is call TBT.
Quote from: JoeDirt on 07/31/05, 10:04:48 PM
Quote from: malnuboy on 07/31/05, 09:14:51 PM
Hey Joe, am i alowed to order one of these? If you wont accept my money I will trade one Anthony Robbin's "Get the Edge" self help VHS's for one RBI arcade cart.
No, I refuse to acknowledge anything you say or post from now on....because if I wanna here malnu, all I have to do is call TBT.
I do not know what the hell this means, please Joe understand your ruining my dreams, and those are the very same dreams that exsist for the sake of exsistence alone.
It means that TBT does a better impersonation of malnuboy than you do...so you are no longer needed; you are dismissed as malnuboy.
POW
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*Joe, please read while you hear me emulating malnu's voice*Malnu i truely cherished the time we spent together, but you had to figure that sooner or later you had to be phased out. My longings for Joe Dirt grow everyday, and quite frankly you were a distraction for my intentions.
BTW a highly trained hitman/henchman will be at your house before 1 am(eastern time)
Enjoy ;)
Thank You
Love You
and good day(riddance)
TBT.
PS, you were right, If columbus can bring together Joe dirt and TBT, anythings possible.
Carts are in!!! And they are fantastic! Here's the deal: I have 9 extras. Price: $30 + shipping ($5 Priority Mail to most places) + any of the following:
$2.00 if you want insurance
$2.00 if you want delivery confirmation
$3.00 if you pay by paypal
$20.00 if I have to burn gas to get to the post office to ship (joking, ppl)
I'm not sure of the actual charges for the above, but these are probably pretty close...if they're over, then those few cents can cover my time and materials!
Who's interested? I have nine after taking one out for me...these are SWEET!
I'd like one. Although, since I didn't express any interest in the beginning, you should put me at the bottom of the list.
The list starts and end with payment made to me.
C'mon, ppl, PM me if you want paypal info!
You didn't say anything about a pm in your other post. You're just trying to make me look stupid.
It is the NES RBI arcade version cart right? If so, I would like one. I have pay pal and I will include the fee.
Yeah, it's the arcade game, but on an NES cart. I'll take a few pics? and post it...the game is fkn awesome.
Payment sent!!!
Quote from: erhajj on 09/08/05, 08:55:29 PM
Payment sent!!!
Sweet. Eight officially left!
Anyone want to share shipping to the Chicago area? I know, I'm a cheap bastard
Seven officially left (Attezobozal).
The one...the only...introducing "NES Arcade RBI."
Resize, if you please?
resized pic
i woulda prefered the lemon party pic on the cart
I thought I told you to shut it?
ok dad ;)
Only FIVE left!
paid:
erajj
BeeJay (shorted me an American dollar, you bastard!)
Attabozal
malnu
Shit, I'm sorry, I never learned to read. I'll make it up somehow, it's not worth it to paypal one dollar.
you add like mr rbi plays rbi--not very well. :)
So far I am extremely disappointed in the originator(s) of dee nee for their lack of expressed interest in this extremely rare and extremely cool RBI piece. :(
Quote from: JoeDirt on 09/11/05, 10:44:25 PM
you add like mr rbi plays rbi--not very well. :)
Hey, i heard that.
I can't wait to get mine. People must buy this!!!
I wonder what would happen if you put one on ebay?
You could say, "Only 10 in the world exist!"
Has any of these been sent out yet?
I really can't fucking wait.
Dibs on Bucky Walters!!
I haven't sent shit out yet....sorry. Been slammed at work and whatnot lately. :(
No worries. Odds are that with my current workload I won't be able to play it for 4 weeks.
Count me in, PM paypal info... For some reason I have been really neglecting the RBI Board lately. Thanks to Beej for the heads up on AG
Quote from: Gantry on 09/14/05, 11:51:24 AM
Count me in, PM paypal info... For some reason I have been really neglecting the RBI Board lately. Thanks to Beej for the heads up on AG
You are a complete dick for this very reason!
I know, it's weird... But my payment has been sent out. Booyah!
as i believe i expressed before, it's RBI 2005 that i am truely interested in. i would consider buying an arcade cart...but I am about to spend hundreds on white sox playoff tickets. wow, i can't believe i said "white sox playoff tickets" in a non-ironic fashion! whee!
I paid and Gantry paid, so I think there are now 3 left. I bought it to help spur the development of the 2K5 version at the end of the season. Now THAT'S the one I want!
Regardless, I'll probably do the same thing for the 2K5 ROM.
I also think it'd be fun to debate, as a group, the teams/ratings/etc.
FYI now: I'll probably require pre-purchase in order to have official input on the ROM...otherwise, it's too much to have 200 guys with 200 different ideas...
ps...purchasers of arcade RBI cart will probably have first dibs on the 2k5 cart...
updated:
Quote from: JoeDirt on 09/11/05, 10:31:16 PM
Only THREE left!
paid:
erajj
BeeJay (shorted me an American dollar, you bastard!)
Attabozal
malnu
fatheadx
Gantry
This is awesome guys. Love the look of the cart. If I didn't already have the arcade version at home, I would have been all over this. Count me in on any future carts (2005, Negro Leagues, etc.)
this was a really great idea, and i would be all over the purchase, but when no one at home wants to play, it seems worthless... well almost.
Less excuses and more takers, fellas!
i'll buy one if you throw in an NES console and 2 controllers for free :)
i am really interested in the 2005 rom, i hope that works out.
My intent is to get these packaged tomorrow night and in the mail Wednesday. Sorry for the delay, fellers.
I'm sure this was discussed, but this thread is 9 pages long.
Does this rom offer two player pause and same team?
Quote from: Attezzobal on 09/20/05, 01:08:50 AM
I'm sure this was discussed, but this thread is 9 pages long.
Does this rom offer two player pause and same team?
yeppers
Carts packed and ready to be shipped for:
Gantry
malnu
Attezabozle
erhajj
Beej
fatheadx --whom, by the way, has a FKN RBI-BASED last name and has never mentioned??! WTF?!
Considered to be dicks for not following through with payment (as of yet) and thus, shall require me to make an additional trip to the PO because I just cannot make the above good fellas wait any longer:
TBT
ult
defen
PAY UP BOYS!
Ain't it a sweet name? I'm an error!
Quote from: fathedX on 09/21/05, 09:19:17 AM
Ain't it a sweet name? I'm an error!
Bopstein? Bopper? Bophalemew?
Kyle Bopslowski
What's the music on the new rom?
WTF? It's the RBI musac. Duh.
I thought the Arcade version had different music?
jackass and dumbass it doesn't matter 'cause that's the music.
Quote from: Attezzobal on 09/21/05, 08:38:06 PM
I thought the Arcade version had different music?
Arcade has the same music
Quote from: JoeDirt on 09/21/05, 08:55:54 PM
jackass and dumbass it doesn't matter 'cause that's the music.
Is it? I wouldn't know as I don't have a copy.
I seriously thought that Arcade RBI had different music.
FINALLY packaged and will be sent out (hopefully) tomorrow!
Still two left...who wants 'em? ???
Sorry, RBI 2005.. what teams does it consist of?
There is an RBI 2K5 ROM that you can download from the main site that is the 2004 playoff teams with their projected lineups at the beginning of this season. It is very good, but is not the one that will be used for the cartridge. Once the playoffs are set (next week), those 8 teams will be used and we all will furiously debate the ratings of the hitters and pitchers. Stay tuned. Hopefully someone will step up and buy the last two Arcade cartridges so we can continue to this next project.
i dropped a check in the mail last night fer joe, so as long as the US postal service dont fail us, then theres only 1 left.
The U.S. Postal service has already failed, it's Friday, I should have mine by now.
Fucking postal service!!
Quote from: Attezzobal on 09/23/05, 02:46:51 PM
The U.S. Postal service has already failed, it's Friday, I should have mine by now.
Fucking postal service!!
I hear they're pretty good.
I finally mailed my check yesterday, again I was an idiot, don't rush to send to me, whenever you are near the PO is fine.
So then that is it. There'll all sold since TBT and ult sent their dough.
No, they haven't been sent out yet. Was outta town this weekend. And will be leaving Tues for much of the same (my aunt died :( ).
Best efforts will be made to get them out before I go.
I was about to ask. No worries though, family always comes first.
Thanks. I knew everybody would understand. I'm going to try to get to the PO before work tomorrow...TBT and ult, you two will unfortunately have to wait until I get back (checks not yet received and more importantly, I haven't packed your carts yet)...
Take your time buddy, there is no rush - get your family affairs taken care of before you even consider the carts. We all can wait...
Quote from: Gantry on 09/26/05, 05:23:03 PM
Take your time buddy, there is no rush - get your family affairs taken care of before you even consider the carts. We all can wait...
Too late Gantry! They went out this am...should arrive within 2-4 days, except erhajj's, which should arrive within 4-7 days since he's in Canada...
ult and TBT--I'll send yours out when I get back.
did those porno DVDs you promised get mailed out as well?
<--------Just came in his pants.
Quote from: Ryno on 09/26/05, 08:33:51 PM
did those porno DVDs you promised get mailed out as well?
no. they did not. i am not intentionally farting you--i sorry. i guess i secretly think sandberg doesn't belong in the hall or something. i've had his damn induction ceremony on my tivo for a several months now--i promise to burn it (and the other sandberg thing) and send it out when i get back.
PS...ult and TBT, I got your checks the day I had to leave.
Also, TBT, what, no note? You gotta leave a note, man...what's wrong with you, boy? Even ult was smart enough to send a note with the check!
Quote from: JoeDirt on 09/26/05, 08:00:27 PM
Quote from: Gantry on 09/26/05, 05:23:03 PM
Take your time buddy, there is no rush - get your family affairs taken care of before you even consider the carts. We all can wait...
Too late Gantry! They went out this am...should arrive within 2-4 days, except erhajj's, which should arrive within 4-7 days since he's in Canada...
ult and TBT--I'll send yours out when I get back.
Thanks joe. I look forward to it.
I think that I would like to get the 2005 RBI cart also.
Maybe.... if the A's are on it.
Quote from: JoeDirt on 09/27/05, 09:39:36 PM
PS...ult and TBT, I got your checks the day I had to leave.
Also, TBT, what, no note? You gotta leave a note, man...what's wrong with you, boy? Even ult was smart enough to send a note with the check!
uh CIA.....FBI......but most likely the FDA has been monitoring me lately.
I gotta keep it on the low down.
My cart has arrived, Booyah!
just got mine as well complete with a nice poem on a sticky note.
There once was a man named Dirt
Whose dick was so long that it hurt
It came with a pair and a whole lot of hair
Just like Earnie and Bert.
thanks again Dirt!
Got it.........Nicest.......Packaging........Ever.
EDIT: JD has a monster dick
-enough to make you sick
It's big + it's scary
It's long and it's hairy
and boy does it give
a kick
XOXO JDirt.
hmmm, im thinking i could do without a joe dirt penis limerick with my cart.
but some pics on the other hand would be fine.
Joey D's limerick will never leave the front of my cart.
Seriously, why did we even bother making the RBI Art?
Here's to Dirt named Joe
Who is always good to go.
He's hard as a rock -
especially in the jock
and he bangs like (editor's note: it could be 'hangs')
nobody you know.
XOXO J.D.
I got my cart today and I'm ready to play! I've been challenged by the 9 year old in the other room, so I gotta finish up some work and we're gonna set up the Nintendo. Sweet! Thanks Joe.
since it looks like the white sox are money (cleveland just lost, we are winning in the bot 8th, this would make the magic number 2 with four games left to play) - I will start working on the White Sox player ratings for the 05 ROM when I get home. Hopefully I can submit preliminary figures within the next few days, and everyone else can evaluate my work.
Quote from: malnuboy on 09/28/05, 02:43:23 PM
just got mine as well complete with a nice poem on a sticky note.
There once was a man named Dirt
Whose dick was so long that it hurt
It came with a pair and a whole lot of hair
Just like Earnie and Bert.
thanks again Dirt!
I'm positive I spelled Ernie correctly, though. :)
Glad you guys received 'em. Hopefully you'll enjoy the cart as much as I have...a truly unique RBI piece that (should be) a must have for the serious fan.
Also, everybody got a rhyme. That's the bonus item you get for your purchase. Enjoy. :)
Joe, do you have a tracking number for mine? I have not gotten anything yet.
You still haven't gotten it?! I did not purchase a "delivery confirmation" for you...i wonder if there's any way to track it from the receipt?
I'm really sorry you didn't get it yet...I sent yours out the same time I sent the rest out...they did tell me that yours would take a little longer (I think 4-7 biz days), but that has surely passed by now.
Quote from: JoeDirt on 09/26/05, 08:00:27 PM
Quote from: Gantry on 09/26/05, 05:23:03 PM
Take your time buddy, there is no rush - get your family affairs taken care of before you even consider the carts. We all can wait...
Too late Gantry! They went out this am...should arrive within 2-4 days, except erhajj's, which should arrive within 4-7 days since he's in Canada...
ult and TBT--I'll send yours out when I get back.
Yep, it went out the morning of 9-26. I'll see what I can dig up.
Ok, thanks.
I still have hope that it will get here.
ive sent stuff to canada trading cd's and such and it took a couple weeks.
I'm fairly sure they can inspect stuff that goes to Canada, when I get Ebay stuff from Canada, it often takes long.
Items are randomly inspected especially when they look like business items. If it looks like a gift between friends and family it often does not take that long. I have gotten things from my parents in california that have not taken very long (3 days) and I have gotten things from upstate NY that have taken 3 weeks because they were from a business.
that makes sense, then because it took forever to get the carts in the first place.
ok, cool. I will be honest, I can't wait to get it. I feel like a little kid. The first thing that I am going to do when I get it is invite my friend over and kick his ass with the A's.
I've ordered stuff from Canada before. They will not even garantee Airmail in less than 15 business days.
Quote from: JoeDirt on 06/28/05, 04:58:57 PM
I don't see the point in $30 for the same team 2pp rom. The same team part is nice, but is it really that hard to say, "dude, i need a time out?"
I think you mean... "Dee-Nee!"
im all about this same teams rom, i'll probably order one myself. det vs det...bos vs bos...you could probably decidedly find out who the best player was if the playing field was 100% level that way between 2 guys.
Erhajj--you're the only one left. Did you get your cart yet?
No, but as soon as I do I will have a review of the poem posted ASP.
It should get here soon.
Quote from: TBT on 10/16/05, 06:56:22 PM
im all about this same teams rom, i'll probably order one myself. det vs det...bos vs bos...you could probably decidedly find out who the best player was if the playing field was 100% level that way between 2 guys.
If you people are that interested in the original game with same teams, that could be accomplished with a Game Genie.
Really? I think I have a game genie around. What do you have to do?
You have to input the code which I'll go figure out now. Back in a jif ...
There's really no better way to do this, 'cause of the limitations of the Game Genie, but here it is ...
OKXXZPSK
Player 1 can choose Player 2's team when moving the team selector from left to right.
OKEXPPSK
Player 1 can choose Player 2's team when moving the team selector from right to left.
OGKXGZSK
Player 2 can choose Player 1's team when moving the team selector from left to right.
OGXXLZSK
Player 2 can choose Player 1's team when moving the team selector from right to left.
This should get added to the site maybe in the FAQ, is there anything else that can be done with game genie?
Quote from: ultimate7 on 10/19/05, 03:41:33 PM
This should get added to the site maybe in the FAQ, is there anything else that can be done with game genie?
yes, it can make the strippers with the tassles on their nipples and whatnot come out after you win the season.
Quote from: Teddyballgame on 10/19/05, 03:44:19 PM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 10/19/05, 03:41:33 PM
This should get added to the site maybe in the FAQ, is there anything else that can be done with game genie?
yes, it can make the strippers with the tassles on their nipples and whatnot come out after you win the season.
I thought it was only after you scored however many runs Dove designated that that happens?
i looked for that thread yesterday and couldn't find it. i did learn, however, that i have mentioned the tassle phenomenon at least three times since.
So what the F erhajj--did you get your cart yet or what?!
hey did everyone get their carts from this dude then...thinking about ordering one
yep. joe dirt got all 10 of em from leon(nes reproductions), and then sent em out to all of us. we also got a little love letter from joe dirt as well.
the guys at the tecmo repository use this to get 2006 TSB carts.
hey does this guy make custom carts...if i made a rom from editor version 2...and emailed him the rom could he meak that...or does it have to be in bulk...
bulk, as in the 10 we got? nah, he will do individual carts. last quote i got from him was 40 bucks, and he suppplied the donor cart.