RBI Birthdays today - Nolan Ryan and Rafael Santana

[Gantry]

Wow, this is a little late but two big RBI birthdays.  Quite possibly the best pitcher and worst hitter in the game are born on the same day.

http://dee-nee.com/wiki/index.php/Nolan_Ryan
http://dee-nee.com/wiki/index.php/Rafael_Santana

Work on the database page, discuss the players - their careers, their RBI abilities, vote in the poll.  Give your opinon of who is a better starter than Nolan Ryan...

[Bonny]

Olshan

[Gantry]

Olshan

Gonna need some help...

[Reds]

Nolan is always effective, and the Houston pitching staff is what keeps them valuable against bad teams....I think Houston can effectively compete against SF, NY, and StL.  Ryan and Scott together are fierce, and with a few lucky base hits they can put up two or three runs per game, maybe.

[fknmclane]

Nolan is definitely a stud but he sure isn't John Tudor.  He throws serious fucking gas and has pretty good stamina but I don't think he's even the best pitcher on his own team.

Mike Scott has a far, far superior changeup/dropball/whatever and seems to pitch deeper into the game (I'm probably wrong on the stamina thing but am too lazy to look it up at the moment.)

The Ryan/Scott tandem is what makes Houston so maddening.  They have two top ten pitchers but really not much else.

[Gantry]

Mike Scott has a far, far superior changeup/dropball/whatever and seems to pitch deeper into the game (I'm probably wrong on the stamina thing but am too lazy to look it up at the moment.)

Ryan and Scott both have the same endurance.  One thing with Ryan though is that many folks abuse his fastball, which would drop his endurance quicker than most...

[fknmclane]

Thanks for checking, Gantry.  And you're right, Nolan is like a loaded gun and players just can't wait to shoot that fastball down the pipe.  Actually, the same can apply to Scott, since his changeup is so good it is often abused.

Obviously, the key with these two guys and really with every pitcher is to take it easy with the fastballs and changeups.

[Gantry]

The more you learn about RBI, the more you realize that going back to basics is what's successful...

[RedBarron]

Nolan is awesome in straight pitch.


He's over rated in real life. ..  . . . ..

[Bonny]

Nolan is awesome in straight pitch.


He's over rated in real life. ..  . . . ..

You're fucking overrated in real life. What the hell is wrong with you people?

[Attezz]

Bonny's having his period.

Nolan's overated, even a black guy that banks at Ryno's bank agrees.

Can't you understand that bonny?

OVER-RATED!!

[RedBarron]

i knew that little comment would get a rise out of bonny. . .  .jerk day or not!

[Bonny]

ITS FUCKING JERK DAY!
No one will be spared

[RedBarron]

everyday is jerk day for me. . .  ..well, every night after the wife goes to bed. . . . except that night she caught me

[ultimate7]

I voted 6-10

The puhl should have been who's the better hitter, Ryan or Santana

[JoeDirt]

I voted right around 5.

[OctoFranco]

I voted right around 5.

We are soulmates, JD.

[BDawk]

everyday is jerk day for me. . .  ..well, every night after the wife goes to bed. . . . except that night she caught me

The jerk store called...and they're out of you!

[BeefMaster]

One thing I wonder about (I don't play much ATG, so I'm really not sure) - is Scott's drop rating too good?  I mean, if you hear the slowball coming, and he's still relatively fresh, can you just automatically take the pitch, knowing it'll likely be a ball?

Ryan is great, although I think for high-level games, great curve is more important than lots of heat.  I still think he's an elite starting pitcher, though.

[Attezz]

We don't play too much with Houston, but whenever we do and I'm pitching with Scott, whenever I use a drop ball (relatively rare, usually in a jam late in the game) Octo just takes them and they almost always drop for a ball.

Scott's a better pitcher (and more clutch) than Nolan Ryan

Whenever I'm Houston I always start with Scott over Ryan, which is why I voted for "Don't find him that good" and don't have a soulmate.