Five Worst Players in RBI

[Wilfong]

It's obvious that the Santana's and Pedrique's of the world are the worst in the game - they never hit for 99% of the people who play. Who are the worst five players that you keep in the game?

1. Mookie Wilson
2. Kevin Bass
3. Denny Walling
4. Wade Boggs
5. Bob Brenley

I can't believe you keep Walling in the line-up.  He is the worst player on the worst team on the game. (some may argue hatcher is worse, but he at least has above average speed).
Walling has below average speed and has the lowest power numbers out of the 12 Ho hitters.

Walling stays in because I hate Hatcher (and he's a righty) and at least Doran and  Assby have to come out. Sometimes Reynolds does too. I'll take my chances with Walling over those guys - even though Denny is one of the worst in the game, I can get an occasional bomb from him and he has the advantage of being a lefty.

[fknmclane]

Juribe
Walling
Brett
Galarraga
Gagne

[Stock]

Walling stays in because I hate Hatcher (and he's a righty) and at least Doran and  Assby have to come out. Sometimes Reynolds does too. I'll take my chances with Walling over those guys - even though Denny is one of the worst in the game, I can get an occasional bomb from him and he has the advantage of being a lefty.

Walling should come out, and you should leave "Assby" in.  He is also a lefty and has 27 more power points than Walling-not terrible for the 8-spot.  Ideally your 3 hitter should be your best overall hitter, and by leaving Walling in, he is your worst overall hitter.
May I suggest:  Lopes, Cruz, Garner, Davis, Bass, Thon, Reynolds, and Ashby for your line-up.  You will still have 4 lefties in your line-up and you would have the second best power hitter on Ho in the 3-spot.

Juribe
Walling
Brett
Galarraga
Gagne

See above... Walling is an absolute piece of RBI shit, and should never bat in the line-up.
Juribe, doesn't deserve to stay in the line-up either, as far as I can see.

[ultimate7]

Who are the worst five players that you keep in the game?

By style of play:
Straight Pitch:
Schrdr
Ford
Larkin
Herr
Cruz

Anything goes
Seitzer
Coleman
Larkin
Herr
Cruz

Personally I think Coleman is valuable in anything goes, I'm suprised you think his value is higher in straight pitch.

[Stock]

I pull his ass in straight pitch.

[Wilfong]

Walling stays in because I hate Hatcher (and he's a righty) and at least Doran and  Assby have to come out. Sometimes Reynolds does too. I'll take my chances with Walling over those guys - even though Denny is one of the worst in the game, I can get an occasional bomb from him and he has the advantage of being a lefty.

Walling should come out, and you should leave "Assby" in.  He is also a lefty and has 27 more power points than Walling-not terrible for the 8-spot.  Ideally your 3 hitter should be your best overall hitter, and by leaving Walling in, he is your worst overall hitter.
May I suggest:  Lopes, Cruz, Garner, Davis, Bass, Thon, Reynolds, and Ashby for your line-up.  You will still have 4 lefties in your line-up and you would have the second best power hitter on Ho in the 3-spot.

Juribe
Walling
Brett
Galarraga
Gagne

See above... Walling is an absolute piece of RBI shit, and should never bat in the line-up.
Juribe, doesn't deserve to stay in the line-up either, as far as I can see.

I'm going to give your lineup a shot. I'll give anything a shot with Ho since they're so terrible. Hopefully, I'll be able to get a couple games in tonight and report back tomorrow...

I'm a fan of Coleman's in any style. I go deep with him probably every other game. I also go deep with Oz every few games. I use the retreat strategy with everyone, but, if done correctly, Oz and Vince can put up decent power numbers.

Uribe will never hit for me again, Spillman is the man (against righties).

[Gantry]

Uribe will never hit for me again, Spillman is the man (against righties).

Music to my ears...

Stock - you have Larkin on both your lists for keeping in, yet he is a bench player.  Unless I'm brain farting or Barry Larkin snuck onto the NL all-stars...

My "bottom five starters"

1) Gagne - I sub half the time
2) Bill Doran - produces for me, but still sucks
3) Ozzie Smith - though has two gimmick hits (pettis and lefty)
4) Kirby Puckett - Bag of ass
5) Jose Cruz - Relatively worthless

From other lists, I don't start Walling (FUCK NO!), Herr, Uribe (disgrace), or Ford.  And I don't typically play all-stars.  Fun list...

JoeD - Great writeup

[Stock]

Stock - you have Larkin on both your lists for keeping in, yet he is a bench player.  Unless I'm brain farting or Barry Larkin snuck onto the NL all-stars...

Sorry, I interpreted the question to be the 5 worst players that I use for my starting line-up.  (Ie... I always take out Gladden for Larkin and use him in my normal line-up.

From other lists, I don't start Walling (FUCK NO!), Herr, Uribe (disgrace), or Ford. And I don't typically play all-stars. Fun list...

I only use Herr in Straight Pitch as this maximizes the total power of the line-up.  If I leave Coleman in, then Herr is gone.  You can't give both those guys a bat, but one or the other is OK.

[Gantry]

I leave Coleman/Ozzie in and do Blank  Morris at #3.  The beauty of Ozzie and Coleman in straight is that they have gimmick hits for any occasion:

1) Bases empty or no baserunner on first - The Pettis

2) Runner on first - the Lefty Hit

Of course I don't with Stl enought to be overly proficient with the Pettis, so you really have to practice.  And this strategy is only for straight pitch...

[fightonusc]

My bottom five starting players (who all get taken out):

1. Willie Randolph - No speed, no power, he's a righty...completely and utterly worthless.
2. Alan Ashby - The worst player on the worst team in the game.
3. Bill Schroeder - The only thing that saves him from being worse than Ashby is a good contact rating. Otherwise, a total waste of space.
4. Jose Uribe - Whether you start Spilman or Speier in his place is up to you; but everyone agrees to get Uribe out of there immediately.
5. Marty Barrett - He used to be the master of the "Hidden Ball" play. Which you can't do in RBI Baseball, and since that's the only thing he did well, fuck him.

[BeefMaster]

Personally I think Coleman is valuable in anything goes, I'm suprised you think his value is higher in straight pitch.

Agreed.  I don't play a whole lot of anything goes, but I'd think that the Pettis would be an option some of the time, since you're likely waiting on the pitch instead of trying to pull one over the fence anyway.  Also, Coleman's a menace once he's on base, and baserunning skills are a lot more important in anything goes than straight-pitch.

[Gantry]

A difference in straight pitch between Pettis and Coleman is the speed difference.  It doesn't seem like much, but The Pettis is so hard to effectively pull off that a good 25-35% of decently placed Pettis hits can be outs when Pettis is hitting over Coleman.  It still requires a great throw on the defenders part, but there's a decent % of hits where Coleman can't get out, but Pettis can...

God I fucking hate Gary Pettis...

[PHole717]

A difference in straight pitch between Pettis and Coleman is the speed difference.  It doesn't seem like much, but The Pettis is so hard to effectively pull off that a good 25-35% of decently placed Pettis hits can be outs when Pettis is hitting over Coleman.  It still requires a great throw on the defenders part, but there's a decent % of hits where Coleman can't get out, but Pettis can...

God I fucking hate Gary Pettis...

Pettis blows

[Wilfong]

Sorry, I interpreted the question to be the 5 worst players that I use for my starting line-up.  (Ie... I always take out Gladden for Larkin and use him in my normal line-up.

I only use Herr in Straight Pitch as this maximizes the total power of the line-up.  If I leave Coleman in, then Herr is gone.  You can't give both those guys a bat, but one or the other is OK.

Have you tried Bush in the leadoff spot? MN has become a completely different (and decent) team since I inserted Bush at the top of the order.

Herr is a monster against me, but never does anything for me. I go with Morris/Lindman in the three spot depending upon what pitcher is on the mound.

As someone else said, Pettis is awful. Most people I play against leave him in because he's fast, huge mistake. I may have thought that way for like two games when I was a rookie, but you learn quickly that he should never, ever get an AB, especially w/CA's bench. 

[PHole717]

Sorry, I interpreted the question to be the 5 worst players that I use for my starting line-up.  (Ie... I always take out Gladden for Larkin and use him in my normal line-up.

I only use Herr in Straight Pitch as this maximizes the total power of the line-up.  If I leave Coleman in, then Herr is gone.  You can't give both those guys a bat, but one or the other is OK.

Have you tried Bush in the leadoff spot? MN has become a completely different (and decent) team since I inserted Bush at the top of the order.

Herr is a monster against me, but never does anything for me. I go with Morris/Lindman in the three spot depending upon what pitcher is on the mound.

As someone else said, Pettis is awful. Most people I play against leave him in because he's fast, huge mistake. I may have thought that way for like two games when I was a rookie, but you learn quickly that he should never, ever get an AB, especially w/CA's bench. 

Gantry, please don't kill me for this. I can't stand using california in RBI. I play anything goes pitching, and the pitcher gets tired after four innings. So I will have to use two releivers by the 9th. What if I;m down by 1 in the 9th? I can't sub my pitcher. Once again, Gantry please leave me my balls.

[RedBarron]

i'm truely surprised that Sandberg hasn't made anyone's top 5.

Is it because noone uses him?

[Stock]

i'm truely surprised that Sandberg hasn't made anyone's top 5.

Is it because noone uses him?

I don't use him, but even if I did, not sure he would make my top 5.

[Gantry]

Gantry, please don't kill me for this. I can't stand using california in RBI. I play anything goes pitching, and the pitcher gets tired after four innings. So I will have to use two releivers by the 9th. What if I;m down by 1 in the 9th? I can't sub my pitcher. Once again, Gantry please leave me my balls. Smiley

A lot of people dislike the pitching for Ca in Anything Goes, no biggie.  Though it's typically because of their relievers, not endurance.  If you check the team pages, you'll see that both Ca pitchers have very good endurance.  The only pitcher who has more endurance than Sutton & Witt is Blyleven.  Ryan and Scott have the same endurance, and every other pitcher in the game has less endurance.  So for some reason you are throwing more pitches with Ca if they are getting tired...

That or they both throw relatively slow to begin with, so their speed drops get low quickly after their endurance runs out..

[Nails]

If you check the team pages, you'll see that both Ca pitchers have very good endurance.

I don't think i've ever noticed the endurance of Witt and Sutton before.  I don't know how I could've missed this.  I've always thought they were both 40's.  I rarely use CA myself...

[Wilfong]

I rarely use CA myself...

That's a shame. CA might not be glamorous, but they can really put a hurtin' on the best of teams out there. If you use their bench correctly, everyone in the order is capable of going yard. I've had several games where every hitter (1-8) hits a bomb.


A lot of people have mentioned streaky hitters? Do you guys think there's more to it (getting bad swings, pitching matchups, etc...) or do you think there's something with the game that decides that Carter just isn't going to go yard in a particular game(s)? I've noticed a ton of streaks lately, Hernandez and Teufel have been tearing it up while Carter and Straw have been weak. Also, I've been going yard with Coleman and Smith fairly regularly after not hitting a bomb with Smith for like 10 years.